The Football News Thread 2023/24

[Alan]

 

[Tredman]

Such a dick

Not you Al

 

[Tony Towner]

Why do I need to know what every woman wants?! It's a generalisation based on terrible attendances. The vast, vast majority would rather sit and watch The Kardashians than go and support a female league.

knitting and netball surely?

 

[jd1981]

Why do I need to know what every woman wants?! It's a generalisation based on terrible attendances. The vast, vast majority would rather sit and watch The Kardashians than go and support a female league.

Talk about stereotyping what awful statement, I’d say a good majority of women don’t go out full stop because they’re juggling the work life balance a long with their partners.

 

[lemonjelly]

Of course, it's at least as infuriating.

Let me be as clear as I can, I'm in no way uniquely frustrated over soccer.

what now? we thought you had learned...

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

Hopefully they don’t compare wages on air..

Or revenues their respective matches generate...

EDIT: covered already

 

[Alan]

what now? we thought you had learned...

Hey man, until they stop calling it "Soccer Saturday" I ain't hearing none of this

 

[Alan]

Such a dick

Not you Al

I have my moments tbf

 

[The Bear]

Talk about stereotyping what awful statement, I’d say a good majority of women don’t go out full stop because they’re juggling the work life balance a long with their partners.

It's the harsh reality, and the above is not really any different to men. Plenty of men can't get out for various reasons, including child care.

Women in general just don't care that much about sport. If female leagues had as many women going to watch them as there are men watching men's leagues then they'd attract more advertisers, sponsors, and the players would earn more. There are plenty of female athletes who earn millions in tennis, UFC, golf, olympic athletes, etc.

The reality is not enough people care about watching women's football (or the WNBA which is where this discussion started).

 

[Kenny]

Apologies for the double cuntness here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1733135450372550904

 

[Mel Evo]

It's the harsh reality, and the above is not really any different to men. Plenty of men can't get out for various reasons, including child care.

Women in general just don't care that much about sport. If female leagues had as many women going to watch them as there are men watching men's leagues then they'd attract more advertisers, sponsors, and the players would earn more. There are plenty of female athletes who earn millions in tennis, UFC, golf, olympic athletes, etc.

The reality is not enough people care about watching women's football (or the WNBA which is where this discussion started).

Fck me. If your DEI training was in anyway state subsidised then my MP is going to get the most surprising complaint about misuse of taxpayers revenue they’ve ever heard.

 

[Banjo]

Apologies for the double cuntness here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1733135450372550904

It goes to show that this is just pure grift from Barton. He's finished as a coach/manager, he'll never make it as a mainstream pundit, so he's realised there's a market online to say stuff that appeals to gammon and incels alike.

 

[AndyWolves]

It's the harsh reality, and the above is not really any different to men. Plenty of men can't get out for various reasons, including child care.

Women in general just don't care that much about sport. If female leagues had as many women going to watch them as there are men watching men's leagues then they'd attract more advertisers, sponsors, and the players would earn more. There are plenty of female athletes who earn millions in tennis, UFC, golf, olympic athletes, etc.

The reality is not enough people care about watching women's football (or the WNBA which is where this discussion started).

I think it's a lot more nuanced than this.

 

[jd1981]

It's the harsh reality, and the above is not really any different to men. Plenty of men can't get out for various reasons, including child care.

Women in general just don't care that much about sport. If female leagues had as many women going to watch them as there are men watching men's leagues then they'd attract more advertisers, sponsors, and the players would earn more. There are plenty of female athletes who earn millions in tennis, UFC, golf, olympic athletes, etc.

The reality is not enough people care about watching women's football (or the WNBA which is where this discussion started).

For starters if “women in general” as you put did like sport then crowds at men’s games would still exceed the men’s by a vast difference, it’s just far more established as a sport and has defined culture. The women’s game is still growing and you can blame the powers that be ie men in suits for banning women’s football for a long period.
No one is suggesting ie Beth Mead earns the same as Harry Kane it’s just ridiculous.
Mens game has a problem that it’s struggling to reverse where it pays it’s elite obscene wages and is a huge contributing factor to clubs living way beyond their means.

 

[Banjo]

Women in general just don't care that much about sport. If female leagues had as many women going to watch them as there are men watching men's leagues then they'd attract more advertisers, sponsors, and the players would earn more. There are plenty of female athletes who earn millions in tennis, UFC, golf, olympic athletes, etc.

I don't think this is right. In a football context, women were expressly banned from playing competitively at the highest level for about 50 years. The men's game thrived, and a culture formed around it of, primarily, dads and sons going to a match. Girls were essentially told by society that going the football was something boys did.

Having been to England women's matches at Wembley, I was struck by the number of young girls who absolutely loved being at the games, who are knowledgeable about the players and the game, and who were having the best time of their lives seeing their new heroes play on such a big stage. The atmosphere is very different to going to a men's match, primarily because you cannot help but notice the sheer levels of enthusiasm that people have for the team (going to an England men's friendly, by contrast, is usually about as exciting as watching the first few rounds of the League Cup).

It will take a while for that enthusiasm to filter down to club level as the existing clubs have - to various degrees - only relatively recently embraced the women's game. The connection between clubs and the potential supporter base just isn't there in the way it is for the men's game, but that's for obvious historical reasons. You can't magic up a brand new culture overnight, but the appetite is there and I think if women had been able to play competitive, professional football for as long as they have been able to do so in, for example, tennis and golf, it would be a completely different picture.

 

[Alan]

I don't think this is right. In a football context, women were expressly banned from playing competitively at the highest level for about 50 years. The men's game thrived, and a culture formed around it of, primarily, dads and sons going to a match. Girls were essentially told by society that going the football was something boys did.

Having been to England women's matches at Wembley, I was struck by the number of young girls who absolutely loved being at the games, who are knowledgeable about the players and the game, and who were having the best time of their lives seeing their new heroes play on such a big stage. The atmosphere is very different to going to a men's match, primarily because you cannot help but notice the sheer levels of enthusiasm that people have for the team (going to an England men's friendly, by contrast, is usually about as exciting as watching the first few rounds of the League Cup).

It will take a while for that enthusiasm to filter down to club level as the existing clubs have - to various degrees - only relatively recently embraced the women's game. The connection between clubs and the potential supporter base just isn't there in the way it is for the men's game, but that's for obvious historical reasons. You can't magic up a brand new culture overnight, but the appetite is there and I think if women had been able to play competitive, professional football for as long as they have been able to do so in, for example, tennis and golf, it would be a completely different picture.

Wonderful post.

 

[leedswolf]

what now? we thought you had learned...

What? Not to use a word originating in the UK?

 

[Alan]

What? Not to use a word originating in the UK?

Appreciated, but I know exactly what I'm in for each time I use that word.

 

[leedswolf]

Appreciated, but I know exactly what I'm in for each time I use that word.

Carry on using it buddy.

 

[lemonjelly]

Pretty sure Alan knew how my post was intended, and indeed he took it in exactly the right way with his response to me.