The Football News Thread 2014/15 - Everything not Wolves News Related

[YoungWolf]

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[Espresso]

Claudio Marchisio out for 8 months after tearing his ACL in training today.

Now they're saying it's not as bad as first feared and he may be back within days.

 

[Alan]

That is an incredible mistake by the press if the new story turns out to be true.

 

[Espresso]

The Italy team doctors did a scan and thought there was a definite tear so sent him back to Juventus. The club doctors did another scan and found no sign of a tear. It is a bit strange. Antonio Conte got up and left a press conference when they kept asking questions about it.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Well a doctor told me I'd sprained my knee and it would be fine. Didn't believe him and went privately where the bloke said it was a blatant ACL tear amongst other things without looking at the scan.

So looks like misdiagnosis with knees happens regularly

 

[Alan]

Something like this actually happened to my dad when he was college (tried walking on to one of Bear Bryant's famous Alabama teams in 1976). At practice he felt his knee go but the pain wasn't awful so he went to the campus health service rather than the town hospital. The nurse on campus gave him a pack of ice and told him he'd be fine.

Two weeks later his leg completely locked up whilst walking to class. Got to the hospital and the doctors were amazed he'd done any walking at all since the incident: turned out he'd blown his ACL, MCL, and PCL in one fell swoop.

Of course this was 40 years ago and I just can't understand a team doctor (who surely is handsomely equipped) in this day and age screwing up that sort of diagnosis.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Yeah they guy didn't have the scan but obviously did all the tests and he was a fully qualified knee specialist yet said there was no issue. Whereas the other knee specialist knew exactly what was wrong - ACL, MCL and medial meniscus all torn and then the scan confirmed it.

 

[ROVERT47]

Sorry John, it's because you're fucking useless!

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32112666

 

[Johnny75]

Sorry John, it's because you're $#@!ing useless!

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32112666

People do themselves no favours sometimes. I agree with you Trev it is rubbish. A quick look at the stats tells you that of all the coaches that are qualified only 6% or BME (Black and minority Ethnic communities) and that goes all the way down the coaching strata.

Instead of spouting rubbish Barnes, Campbell and Ince should be looking at getting more minorities into the coaching system, that's the only way anybody can get any better.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Speaking of which:

He isn't all there.

 

[YoungWolf]

Barnes is a pretty poor example as he has had jobs and looked out of his depth.

"BME coaches take up 3.4% of those positions despite at least 25% of players coming from BME backgrounds. "

That is shocking. And it can't simply be because "there aren't any good coaches out there from BME backgrounds". I am personally in favour of a quota along the lines of the Rooney Rule. It's not simply going to magically improve so we have to make it happen.

 

[Del Woppio]

Surely the Rooney rule would make the number of bme candidates interviewed wildly disproportionate to the ethnic make up of the qualified talent pool? If we want more bme candidates interviewed, we need to encourage more to take their badges.

Or badgers.

 

[YoungWolf]

Surely the Rooney rule would make the number of bme candidates interviewed wildly disproportionate to the ethnic make up of the qualified talent pool? If we want more bme candidates interviewed, we need to encourage more to take their badges.

I suppose that might need to come first, yeah. And in fairness the FA have gone a small bit to helping that with the FA Bursary which helps ethnic minorities with funding to gain more qualifications. A friend of mine (who was already on his UEFA B) was put on a placement with Birmingham City and has had is Youth Module 3. He's had a brilliant year, sent me loads of pictures he took at City's new training complex. Talking to another coach I know, who has been my mentor basically, had never heard of it before I told him recently. So there they could do more to promote it I would say.

 

[Johnny75]

I suppose that might need to come first, yeah. And in fairness the FA have gone a small bit to helping that with the FA Bursary which helps ethnic minorities with funding to gain more qualifications. A friend of mine (who was already on his UEFA B) was put on a placement with Birmingham City and has had is Youth Module 3. He's had a brilliant year, sent me loads of pictures he took at City's new training complex. Talking to another coach I know, who has been my mentor basically, had never heard of it before I told him recently. So there they could do more to promote it I would say.

The FA could make certain levels free which would help people enter the system with no race bias at all. The red herring is that people keep equating players to coaching and more stupidly, playing ability to coaching ability. The two are not related.

 

[YoungWolf]

Agreed. the Level 1 should be free, or should be called an introduction to coaching. the jump from Level 1 to Level 2 surprises people I find, so they could stagger that too.

I agree that people equate playing ability to coaching, but that still means players from minorities are not making that jump from playing to coaching despite having that advantage over so many people.

 

[Alan]

It would be interesting to take a look at the record of some of the black managers who make a fuss versus some of the white managers who seem to constantly job-hop.

Dan, any information along those lines off the top of your head?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

You've got a really tiny dataset to work with regarding contemporary black managers in this country - which also gets skewed by Ince being one of the highest profile and also being fucking useless. What I would say is all of Powell, Hughton and Curle have been sacked relatively recently and are all currently back in employment.

 

[Jolemai]

For what it's worth, Jean Tigana has also managed five clubs.

 

[Alan]

Is Karl Robinson still at MK?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, but he's as black as Richard Stearman is.