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The Film Thread

Watched the new Cloverfield film, the cloverfield paradox, on netflix last night.

It was a good watch and a decent film, felt a bit 'standard' for cloverfield and not as out there as the previous 2. Well worth a watch though, if only to see the very last scene and understand a bit more about the first film.
 
Alien Covenant - I enjoyed this one and it explained a lot about the underlying plot in Prometheus, and throughout the whole Alien universe. The only thing I find about these films now is the characters are completely one dimensional and you can’t relate to them at all.

The Geeat Wall - Absolute dogshit. From the wank storyline to the awful CGI to Matt Damon’s dodgy fake eyebrow, the whole thing was just a complete waste of time.
 
The Shape of Water is a masterpiece.

The subject matter just shouldn't work, it's borderline preposterous. But it absolutely does. It's beautiful. It's also really stylish and looks gorgeous with a brilliant soundtrack. Performances are memorable too.

Well worth all the praise it's getting.

Saw this on Friday at the run down old Curzon cinema in Eastbourne, which was like going into the fleapits of my childhood.

Can't quite agree with all the lavish praise it's getting. It looks fantastic, like all Guillermo D.T. films do, but the story is pretty thin. Your basic girl meets fish, fall in love with fish tale. Bit like Splash but with more nudity. The performances are all good though. But it's not a patch on GDT's Pan's Labyrinth.
I'd give it 5/5 for prettiness, 3/5 for story. So 4/5 overall.

Classic Oscar bait though - non-disabled person playing disabled person and lots of references to the Golden Age of Hollywood which always makes the Oscar people spaff themselves - see La La Land and The Artist recently.
 
Saw this on Friday at the run down old Curzon cinema in Eastbourne, which was like going into the fleapits of my childhood.

Can't quite agree with all the lavish praise it's getting. It looks fantastic, like all Guillermo D.T. films do, but the story is pretty thin. Your basic girl meets fish, fall in love with fish tale. Bit like Splash but with more nudity. The performances are all good though. But it's not a patch on GDT's Pan's Labyrinth.
I'd give it 5/5 for prettiness, 3/5 for story. So 4/5 overall.

Classic Oscar bait though - non-disabled person playing disabled person and lots of references to the Golden Age of Hollywood which always makes the Oscar people spaff themselves - see La La Land and The Artist recently.

The story is pretty basic but that's sort of the point - it's just a classic fairytale. It didn't have to be complicated. I preferred it to Pan's Labyrinth personally.
 
The story is pretty basic but that's sort of the point - it's just a classic fairytale. It didn't have to be complicated. I preferred it to Pan's Labyrinth personally.

Could have done with a bit more fish on the bones for me. If my wife comes out of the cinema saying "that was easy to follow", I know they haven't put enough work into the storyline.
 
Germans really only do dubbing. Not very fond of subtitles at all over there.
I once saw American Pie 2 dubbed into German. This is why I no longer let other people pick what to watch at the cinema.
 
Germans really only do dubbing. Not very fond of subtitles at all over there.

I actually stopped watching Dark because of the dubbing, can’t stand it. Give me subtitles any day.
 
Can't put up with much dubbing or subtitles, both just end up massively distracting me from what I'm actually interested in watching.
 
I actually stopped watching Dark because of the dubbing, can’t stand it. Give me subtitles any day.

agree that the dubbing in Dark is pretty bad and also seemed emotionally inconsistent which made it seem even worse.

however, you do have the option to change the language to the original German and put subtitles on. so don't miss out! definitely better that way.
 
I'm a big fan of subtitles. (Was my job for 12 years so not surprising). Good ones you shouldn't even notice.
 
You've got to notice them though haven't you? If you don't read them then you can't really follow what's happening and by focusing on them you're more likely to miss other elements of the feature than if you're able to just listen and understand what's being said. Then you've got the issue of being distracted by someone or something and you miss part of what's been said as the subtitles have gone off the screen, I can put up with it short doses like say the start of Inglorious Basterds where the situation soons develops to them conversing in English but I couldn't have watched the whole film like that.
 
The Geeat Wall - Absolute dogshit. From the wank storyline to the awful CGI to Matt Damon’s dodgy fake eyebrow, the whole thing was just a complete waste of time.

I couldnt believe how bad that movie was. Just so many things about it were absolutely awful, as you said, the storyline, the acting, the fucking wierd monster things. We put it on thinking it was gonna be a historical fantasy like Hero or something, we could not stop laughing tbh.
 
You've got to notice them though haven't you? If you don't read them then you can't really follow what's happening and by focusing on them you're more likely to miss other elements of the feature than if you're able to just listen and understand what's being said. Then you've got the issue of being distracted by someone or something and you miss part of what's been said as the subtitles have gone off the screen, I can put up with it short doses like say the start of Inglorious Basterds where the situation soons develops to them conversing in English but I couldn't have watched the whole film like that.

It's never bothered me. I suppose it's possible that I'm missing half of what's going on elsewhere on the screen but I don't think so. And even so, I'd rather not be restricted to only watching things that were shot in English. I find dubbing far more distracting.
 
It's never bothered me. I suppose it's possible that I'm missing half of what's going on elsewhere on the screen but I don't think so. And even so, I'd rather not be restricted to only watching things that were shot in English. I find dubbing far more distracting.

Dubbing is certainly no improvement but personally I wouldn't endure either given the choice, as good as many films made in different languages may be I couldn't/wouldn't really appreciate it with that level of distraction.
 
Three of my top ten films are subtitled The lives of Others, Let the Right One In and 'M' So that really doesn't bother me, but growing up in the 70's with really bad dubbing, most kung fu films, Monkey and The Flashing Blade to name but a few was really off putting.

"I couldn't/wouldn't really appreciate it with that level of distraction. " If you read with Braille I could see it being a problem.

My biggest gripe is when they made films or tv programmes from comic characters that I'd already imagined the voice, that was both wrong and confusing :)
 
The dubbing on Monkey was bearable. It was The Water Margin that had the worst dubbing of all time.
 
Thank you I stand corrected, what was your thoughts on the boy priest in Monkey who was just there to screw with your sexual development ?
 
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