The Euro 2024 Thread

[Jack Regan]

The Dutch practically begging Turkiye to equalise.

 

[jd1981]

Dutch midfield is incredibly porous

 

[jd1981]

Hard to know what to make of the Dutch good in parts but very open in others could easily have conceded multiple times at the end.

 

[ROVERT47]

England are capable of beating the Netherlands, France and Spain, whether they can or not is another matter.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

The dutch will do for me

 

[sycophantia]

Had to dash out after our pens, just back in. Our penalties were awesome, every one a cracker.
Chuffed for Saka, think he's been quite poor up till tonight, but he was braver, our best attacking player in this game and scored a great equaliser, I had everything crossed when he stepped up for his pen, delighted he found the corner.

 

[The Bear]

The best thing about winning like that is it should give all the players a huge confidence boost.

Pickford gets one for saving the pen and all our takers score and also get huge boosts. Bit of a hoodoo off our back for shootouts too.

 

[White Wolf]

The tournament in general has been pretty light on quality, many of the bigger nations are playing incredibly negatively. So on that point we are keeping with the general trend at Euro 2024. I think the point was made on the post-match analysis of France-Portugal but when games go to extra time the players do seem so exhausted after these gruelling seasons. Cramming in more and more games (Champions League expansion) will surely make this worse.

Delighted to have won, first time I have experienced a penalty shootout live. It really is nervy but the players all seemed very confident and took their penalties well. Considering we have won three out of our last four (two against the Swiss) I do hope the media narrative about the England penalty curse is gone, only added to the pressure historically. Pickford did what was needed and saved a pretty rubbish penalty too. Very pleased Saka scored.

The subs were far too late again, performance was stale. So few shots on target. Only making changes once England had conceded is incredibly reactive and for the second time we have relied on an individual moment of quality to keep us in. Shaw didn't seem physically up to the task yet but I'm not sure Southgate could afford for us to go out and him not play considering the gamble taken. I think the change in system is for the best, we neutralised Switzerland at the least and it meant we did not look as frail as in the Slovakia game. Konsa did pretty well.

Foden and Bellingham together isn't working but Southgate doesn't seem to be up to dropping one of them. Would have preferred Alexander-Arnold rather than Trippier also. Kane has had a shit tournament and physically looks like he is on the decline, I wouldn't drop him but he needs someone closer to him. Same as what was suggested last game I would like Toney to partner him, drop Foden.

Only one win in 90 minutes but we have still managed to stumble into the semi final. I think Southgate is at the end of the road no matter the outcome of this tournament, doesn't seem to have the right ideas to get the team to perform well and these kind of displays hardly offer an idea of how England can progress as a side. At this stage of the tournament the results now take precedence over the performance for me.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

England have won three of their last four shootouts

Admittedly the lost one was rather important.

 

[Carrotdude]

Obviously I’m happy we’ve won in the end but there’s seems to be a lot of hindsight praise for Southgate from the media and Southgate lovers because we won the shoot out which could have gone either way. We barely had a chance all game and he wasn’t going to change anything until we conceded. It was just as slow and turgid as the rest of the tournament for the most part.

Slight difference for me was that Switzerland weren’t any better and played very defensively and didn’t offer much either. Let’s see what happens when we play a team that might actually attack.

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809691833200701698

 

[PuntsWolf]

Just slightly before my time, but I’ve just watched that shootout and although a couple were unsaveable, he was fucking useless.

Saved one penalty out of 99 all career!?

Peter Shilton - Penalty statistics

This is the penalty statistic of Peter Shilton of Karriereende. The page shows how many penalties a player has taken and how many of those were scored.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

 

[Tony Towner]

Jan Molby summed his technique up well

https://twitter.com/x/status/1332314008263778305

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Shilton was an odd one in 1990. Undoubtedly saved us against Cameroon with numerous big saves but looked like a proper old man for Brehme's goal (deflection or not, you should be saving that) and the penalties. Then acted the wanker for the third place game and demanded to play so he could get to 125 caps, denying Chris Woods a game at a World Cup.

He was APPALLING the following year for Derby.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570779707872022529

 

[Tony Towner]

Shite in 88 too

https://twitter.com/x/status/1700620231478047125

 

[KiwiWolf61]

Never a great fan of Shilton - I always preferred Ray Clemence.

In terms of the 70s there was no better keeper for saving penalties than Paul Cooper from Ipswich Town.

 

[nimrod]

Shilts was way past it and our best chance was to sub him for beasant before the shoot out.

anyway, thoughts are with Fabian Schar today, the diving prick.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Shilts was way past it and our best chance was to sub him for beasant before the shoot out.

Beasant wasn't on the bench. Only 5 subs then rather than the whole squad. Woods was the sub keeper.

Bob only made one sub, Trevor Steven for Butcher with about 20 minutes of normal time to go (think he went to RWB and Parker to RCH). Woods, Dorigo, McMahon and Bully unused.

 

[Squeak]

Never a great fan of Shilton - I always preferred Ray Clemence.

In terms of the 70s there was no better keeper for saving penalties than Paul Cooper from Ipswich Town.

This Ray Clemence?

 

[nimrod]

Beasant wasn't on the bench. Only 5 subs then rather than the whole squad. Woods was the sub keeper.

Bob only made one sub, Trevor Steven for Butcher with about 20 minutes of normal time to go (think he went to RWB and Parker to RCH). Woods, Dorigo, McMahon and Bully unused.

Fair enough and I think I’ve made that mistake before but with some foresight of possible pens I’d have had Beasant on the bench and that would have been my thought at the time, hence the memory.

SBR was too nice at times. It generally worked for him but sometimes…