The Euro 2024 Thread

[Tony Towner]

It's not binary. I wouldn't swap a relegation for a Euros, I think I would for a World Cup though, that's more to do with how I feel about the club at the moment though. I'd take an FA Cup for Wolves over a World Cup for England

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Bellingham off Kane off. Grow some bollocks Southgate.

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[Tony Towner]

Cheap, they were both poor. I wouldn't have taken Kane off, Bellingham couldn't have complained though

 

[Quirkafleeg]

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I know EP. Getting pelters hahahahaha.

 

[Tony Towner]

More paranoia, more delusion, Southgate's drilled this victim complex into them. So self defeating

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807488604077277389

 

[YoungWolf]

More paranoia, more delusion, Southgate's drilled this victim complex into them. So self defeating

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807488604077277389

A shame, as they’d done well to create the opposite environment previously.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

You can tell from the interviews with Kane and Bellingham there is a paranoid, negative mindset in the squad. Which is a shame.

I get it, with our fans, with our press.

But it's not a good thing

 

[Deano]

More paranoia, more delusion, Southgate's drilled this victim complex into them. So self defeating

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807488604077277389

Bellingham is not coming across very well really..spent a lot of the first half pissing about waving his arms at fans who have spent thousands to go over there, when really the support would just ramp up naturally if the players gave them anything to get behind. I don't think the criticism these players are getting is anything out of line. We have played 4 teams so far and there's not many players out of all of the 4 squads they've faced that would make the England team.

 

[Tony Towner]

You can tell from the interviews with Kane and Bellingham there is a paranoid, negative mindset in the squad. Which is a shame.

I get it, with our fans, with our press.

But it's not a good thing

They were a worldie in the last minute off going out to a far inferior side. Now Bellingham scored it, so he has some room to gloat, but that performance and those in the tournament so far don't justify anyone getting on their high horse. The criticism thus far has been tepid contextually. The expectation is higher, because on paper we have the best team we've had under Southgate and arguably of the tournament. Rather than embracing that, they've gone for the bunker mentality. Fergie and Wenger pulled that off well, this team aren't thriving on it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

On Georgia: we were very strongly linked with Willy Sagnol in 2016. When we were either about to sack Crazy Walt or we just had (and after Marco Silva had said no). Too much noise for it to be random made up crap, there was obviously something in it somewhere.

We got Paul Lambert instead.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807495733597094157

 

[ROVERT47]

Surviving in the Premier League next season comes before England winning anything, each to their own I suppose.

Well obviously, but Wolves being relegated would stick with me for a few days, England not winning the Euro’s, about 30 seconds.
Oops, meant to quote JD1981, as in, ‘you can have both’.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

Obviously I am pleased that we are still in the tournament but I am not sure what is annoying me the most this morning:

1. Making no substitutions at half time
2. Deciding to bring Toney on in the 92nd minute
3. Sitting back to defend a lead for 28 minutes against Slovakia.

I can accept managers making mistakes if they learn from them and adapt but Southgate just keeps doing the same things over and over again.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The huge frustration is that it isn't lack of the forward talent. The England front six is about as good as anything in the world. Yet they are being played like Forest Green Rovers away at Old Trafford.

 

[sycophantia]

Obviously I am pleased that we are still in the tournament but I am not sure what is annoying me the most this morning:

1. Making no substitutions at half time
2. Deciding to bring Toney on in the 92nd minute
3. Sitting back to defend a lead for 28 minutes against Slovakia.

I can accept managers making mistakes if they learn from them and adapt but Southgate just keeps doing the same things over and over again.

I think Toney probably helped us get over the line, it was the best thing Southgate did all game (low, low bar). An assist and he held the the ball up really well a few times by 'buying a foul'

 

[leedswolf]

Beating the Italians, Paul, is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You can expect it will be tight. But, if you’ve done your homework, you’ll know that by caressing your talents all over the field of play with some nice touches will result in you exploiting their most vulnerable holes. Eventually you will end up on top, and guarantee that they will come second.

 

[Del Woppio]

I heard Bellingham say something along the lines of "it's tournament football, if we need to play like that again in order to get the win then we'll do it".

So that was...a plan?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I heard Bellingham say something along the lines of "it's tournament football, if we need to play like that again in order to get the win then we'll do it".

So that was...a plan?

In terms of being gritty bastards that fight to the death to win the game? Then yes he's right.

 

[Carrotdude]

We played appallingly for 120 minutes. Got some luck with our only two shots on target from set pieces and then camped in our penalty area for 30 minutes at the end. Against Slovakia. Doesn’t feel like the time to throw out an ‘I told you so’ does it? We’ll get comfortably beaten by Switzerland, I can’t see it even being close.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

I get the lack of confidence even the mindset within the camp.

Ever since Southgate came into the job there has been no negativity from the fans, we have all been in this together.

That got us
Semi Final
Final
Last 16 against a team who when we play it's a toss up who wins, and were a penalty away from winning the game.

Now the amount of abuse Southgate and the players are getting is not going to help us win games.

We need to remember what it was like before Southgate and the disconnect between the fans and team.

Was it good no
Did we win yes
Do good teams win when they play bad
Did we keep going