The Definitive TWF Wolves XI Thread (1970 - present)

[Deutsch Wolf]

If anyone other than Derek Parkin wins the left back poll then I will be staggered. By a massive distance Squeak is the the best full back I have ever seen in Wolves colours.

You've got to be in your mid-40s to properly remember him though. You can't blame people for when they were born...

Some other smartarse will run this thread in 20 years and I'll be cursing him and his pals for not recognising Alex Rae as the king of central midfield.

 

[Tony Towner]

Lost a gamble?

I thought Celtic just didn't offer him a contract for ages so he gave up the hope of it being renewed and came down here. Think they eventually offered him a deal late in the day but he said he'd given Wolves his word and honoured that even though he'd have preferred to stay at Celtic.

You do love answering your own question Mark.

 

[Parkins left foot]

If anyone other than Derek Parkin wins the left back poll then I will be staggered. By a massive distance Squeak is the the best full back I have ever seen in Wolves colours.

As has been said with the age profile on here a lot will not have seen him play & will not feel able to vote for him

Am with you on the sentiment Frank, but you & I are of an age when we did see him play at his best

 

[Tony Towner]

Still trying to come to terms that Foley us the best right back in 50 years means that we must redress the balance at lefti back. My vote as follows
Thompson. Good defender great attacker and a privilege to have played in the same team as him
Larkin. Nearly 600 games for us.unlucky not to be first pick
Naylor. Better than he was ever rated

You can't expect people to vote for players they didn't see play Cyber. I can't speak pre early 80's, but after that Geoff Palmer was pretty poor - as was the rest of the team.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Wim not old foggies on TWF.

I might be old(er) than some, but like to think I'm not a fogie - don't disillusion me

 

[Tony Towner]

You've got to be in your mid-40s to properly remember him though. You can't blame people for when they were born...

Some other smartarse will run this thread in 20 years and I'll be cursing him and his pals for not recognising Alex Rae as the king of central midfield.

Older than that realistically, I'm 45 in a couple of months and was 7 when we last won the League Cup and Parkin was on the way down already by then.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

I might be old(er) than some, but like to think I'm not a fogie - don't disillusion me

:smarmy:

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

As I have said in other polls I would want to put Dougan in my forwards. Just my favourite forward for reasons I find hard to express, but I have only seen highlight footage and it would been impossible for me to see him in the flesh in a Wolves shirt (other than as a baby so that hardly counts). Therefore, in these polls I am restricting myself to players I have seen enough of. Sadly Parkin gets ruled out by that, as do Mike Bailey, Waggy, Munro, Richards and so on.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

You do love answering your own question Mark.

Eh?

I don't see how the situation I described could ever be interpreted as a gamble on the player's behalf.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

As has been said with the age profile on here a lot will not have seen him play & will not feel able to vote for him

Am with you on the sentiment Frank, but you & I are of an age when we did see him play at his best

Parkin was an excellent player who could play either right or left back, and even filled in at centre half occasionally. He was also very good going forward. I think he was so versatile he could possibly have played anywhere and still looked good. David Wagstaffe said that Squeak created so much space for him when he was overlapping. Though I believe Bill McGarry did try to remind Squeak that he was a full back not a winger.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

Venus
Parkin
Ward

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Parkin was an excellent player who could play either right or left back, and even filled in at centre half occasionally. He was also very good going forward. I think he was so versatile he could possibly have played anywhere and still looked good. David Wagstaffe said that Squeak created so much space for him when he was overlapping. Though I believe Bill McGarry did try to remind Squeak that he was a full back not a winger.

Let it never be said that my post above is in any way denigrating the 70s team. It really isn't. And I am damn sure that Parkin was utterly brilliant for us, and also a stunning servant of the club. I guess you chaps were lucky enough to see them.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Venus
Parkin
Ward

Your choice and I respect your opinion, but as a matter of interest why do you think Venus was better than Parkin?

 

[Deleted Cyber]

You can't expect people to vote for players they didn't see play Cyber. I can't speak pre early 80's, but after that Geoff Palmer was pretty poor - as was the rest of the team.

I know. But so many people are choosing 95 plus players as they didn't see the 70s. Not their fault but I have to vote with what was a damn good era

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Don't think anyone would doubt that the 70s team (in relative terms, because the game evolves etc etc) was better than anything we've had since. Just a) you can't expect people to vote on stuff they've never seen and b) nostalgia from that period is definitely misty-eyed for some reason.

I'm always very careful not to romanticise the late 80s for instance, it was an exhilarating period and it was a rebirth of our club. Would never knock the impact that it had. But let's not pretend we had a load of great footballers or anything, we didn't.

I don't think any empirical outside analysis of our 70s team suggests we were as good as some say we were, we weren't ever that close to winning the league when it was more open than it is today, the lack of international honours for many of the lionised players (at a time when England were tits, too) can't be an accident. Maybe they just weren't quite top class, no shame in that.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I know it can't happen but I think the 1980 team would have beaten any team since. Gray up front, Hughes at the back, 6 th in div one and league cup winners. God those were the days!

 

[Parkins left foot]

Let it never be said that my post above is in any way denigrating the 70s team. It really isn't. And I am damn sure that Parkin was utterly brilliant for us, and also a stunning servant of the club. I guess you chaps were lucky enough to see them.

Was my favorite time (mainly due to, until more recently, the main time I was able to watch as after that came marriage/kids/mortgages/no money & living way south)

That team was not that far off being the best in the country - didn't quite make it, but it was very close

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Let it never be said that my post above is in any way denigrating the 70s team. It really isn't. And I am damn sure that Parkin was utterly brilliant for us, and also a stunning servant of the club. I guess you chaps were lucky enough to see them.

Fair comment, and I respect your stance on not voting for players you have not seen.

And yes we were lucky to see so many very good players. The early seventies were very a very good time to be a Wolves fan.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I am 45 now. And I am probably 10 years too young to remember that team. I have vague memories of the 1980 league cup win but that is about it. 1974 I was probably more interested in the clangers

 

[Parkins left foot]

I don't think any empirical outside analysis of our 70s team suggests we were as good as some suggest, we weren't ever that close to winning the league when it was more open than it is today, the lack of international honours for many of the lionised players (at a time when England were tits, too) can't be an accident. Maybe they just weren't quite top class, no shame in that.

Individually they probably weren't (though some should have been capped or given more than 1), but it was a team and because the league was more open think that they weren't quite as far off as you feel. Not quite there though