The Car Thread

[Tredman]

Electric cars do make a very distinctive sound. Since late 2017 (I think) it’s been law to do so at lower speeds. Apparently sounds like the tardis according to my neighbour.

 

[Wolf Hunting]

All BEVs have AVAS.

Do they really?
Guys on this forum use so many little groups of initials it's fucking ridiculous! (Can't think of the collective noun)
This post about Electric cars being quiet, prompted this response and POOF! Straight into a parallel universe!
I have absolutely no idea what it means.

 

[Jack Regan]

See in the time taken to type that you could have just googled it like I did.

"AVAS produces an audible alert to pedestrians that an electrified car is headed in their direction."

 

[sycophantia]

See in the time taken to type that you could have just googled it like I did.

"AVAS produces an audible alert to pedestrians that an electrified car is headed in their direction."

Googling stuff is cheating imv

 

[Tredman]

Do they really?
Guys on this forum use so many little groups of initials it's fucking ridiculous! (Can't think of the collective noun)
This post about Electric cars being quiet, prompted this response and POOF! Straight into a parallel universe!
I have absolutely no idea what it means.

Yes they do.

If only someone had invented something which searches out answers. Could have called it something like Google perhaps?

 

[The Bear]

Electric cars do make a very distinctive sound. Since late 2017 (I think) it’s been law to do so at lower speeds. Apparently sounds like the tardis according to my neighbour.

They only do that in reverse. Mine makes like a weird UFO sound.

 

[Wolf Hunting]

Yes they do.

If only someone had invented something which searches out answers. Could have called it something like Google perhaps?

Yeah, I have absolutely nothing at all to do except type in groups of initials into Google so I can understand what someone is trying to say.
I do understand most of the more common ones, but if I have to go start googling something, forget it.
Cock.

 

[Wolf Hunting]

See in the time taken to type that you could have just googled it like I did.

"AVAS produces an audible alert to pedestrians that an electrified car is headed in their direction."

It's cumulative.
It's not just one, there's dozens of them!

 

[Tredman]

They only do that in reverse. Mine makes like a weird UFO sound.

No, does it below 35mph too - you just can't hear it inside

 

[Tredman]

Yeah, I have absolutely nothing at all to do except type in groups of initials into Google so I can understand what someone is trying to say.
I do understand most of the more common ones, but if I have to go start googling something, forget it.
Cock.

a doodle do

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Having to dip my toe back into the world of car ownership.

Drove PHEVs for the last couple of company cars but got a few reservations about potentially expensive maintenance for private ownership. Thinking it might be a safer bet in that regard to go for a diesel instead as it will give me similar day to day running costs and potentially cheaper up front costs.

Know there's a few EV/PHEV owners/drivers on here, anyone started to get any worrying maintenance issues cropping up as they're getting older?

 

[EpsomWolf]

Private ownership changes everything.

I went from diesel to petrol to buy some time for electrics to work themselves through a bit more (plus, is anyone actually ‘buying’ an EV?), but the main reason was protecting residual values.

If ulez/exclusion isn’t likely to be an issue then go for a diesel every time. The ulez fucked values here and diesels can represent awesome value now. I miss the 50mpg and (best part of) 150mph plus what, 700 miles on a tank of juice with no pissing about.

Back to the subject of residuals, you’d assume diesels are collapsing and EV’s are solid, but there’s some evidence diesels are firming up as people are seeing opportunities, and the second hand EV market is very, very uncertain indeed.

This guy is a bit of a knob and has some agenda, but the points he’s making are quite startling and if you’re thinking of buying an EV definitely worth a look and doing your own further research:

 

[Stan Hullis]

I'm about to buy a new car, probably a diesel as I don't visit London enough to worry about Ulez although Bristol/Bath/Birmingham does have their CAZ's which I do visit for work often enough.

Have to weigh up whether to get a Euro 5 emission car and maybe slightly better value for my budget or just get a Euro 6 rated and not have to pay the above fees.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Pure EV is out of the question for me, up front costs far too high for anything that would appeal even if the day to day running costs would offset it long term. Also experienced enough situations the last few years driving a PHEV where it would've been far too much of an inconvenience to be solely reliant on electricity to want to commit to that just yet.

ULEZ shouldn't ever be on my radar I wouldn't think, Sheffield and Birmingham CAZ likely to be the only incursions into that world and the diesel I'm considering isn't an issue there.

Residual value is likely to be terrible regardless of what I buy with the amount of miles it'll likely get on it.

 

[EpsomWolf]

The euro 5/6 dilemma is a big one. You can factor the extra charges incurred on a 5 now but it’s very difficult to gauge when/if the next cull will be.

A lot of people on tight budgets are squeezing a few extra quid to upgrade to a compliant 6 but then sit in panic waiting for the next cull. It’s debatable whether the next one will include petrols as well as diesels (I think it probably will) but the bigger obstacle could be some councils making individual decisions to refuse entry to diesels altogether.

 

[Tredman]

Pure EV is out of the question for me, up front costs far too high for anything that would appeal even if the day to day running costs would offset it long term. Also experienced enough situations the last few years driving a PHEV where it would've been far too much of an inconvenience to be solely reliant on electricity to want to commit to that just yet.

ULEZ shouldn't ever be on my radar I wouldn't think, Sheffield and Birmingham CAZ likely to be the only incursions into that world and the diesel I'm considering isn't an issue there.

Residual value is likely to be terrible regardless of what I buy with the amount of miles it'll likely get on it.

PHEVs are nowt like driving a full EV. They’re pointless tax dodges, the worst of both worlds.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

PHEVs are nowt like driving a full EV. They’re pointless tax dodges, the worst of both worlds.

Suited my needs perfectly for the last few years, given me fuel efficiency beyond what I would've got from standalone ICE and given flexibility above what a pure EV would've done when I've traveled in more remote places.

 

[Wolftone]

Private ownership changes everything.

I went from diesel to petrol to buy some time for electrics to work themselves through a bit more (plus, is anyone actually ‘buying’ an EV?), but the main reason was protecting residual values.

If ulez/exclusion isn’t likely to be an issue then go for a diesel every time. The ulez fucked values here and diesels can represent awesome value now. I miss the 50mpg and (best part of) 150mph plus what, 700 miles on a tank of juice with no pissing about.

Back to the subject of residuals, you’d assume diesels are collapsing and EV’s are solid, but there’s some evidence diesels are firming up as people are seeing opportunities, and the second hand EV market is very, very uncertain indeed.

This guy is a bit of a knob and has some agenda, but the points he’s making are quite startling and if you’re thinking of buying an EV definitely worth a look and doing your own further research:

Not according to Climie Fisher it doesn't

 

[Kenny]

Wife got her new company car yesterday.

Audi Q4 e-Tron. Very good to drive and I will be leaving my car at home when I can to drive this one

So first time a full electric vehicle in our household. Got to sort out the issue of unlooping our electric supply until we can have a home charger put in but she will do her charging at work anyways, so no big issue

On range, what should you be looking for on the consumption of miles per kwh? Guessing somewhere between 3 and 4 to ensure decent range?

 

[The Bear]

3 is a good baseline average. You will get slightly more in the summer, and a bit less in the winter.

Make sure both of you have ZapMap on your phones just in case you find yourself needing to charge out in public.