The Blame Game

[Premier Quality]

Nah, he has been much better. Not really good fault if sterling takes a dive on the edge of our box, that's down to crap refereeing.

Agree with that completely- though want to point out (because I haven’t said it that often), apart From that, the ref had a really excellent game.

 

[Peter_Knowles_Ghost]

Really? He still looked awful at it against City, he made a hash of a few tackles and gave away a couple of free kicks as I recall. I remember saying it to my Dad at the time, Neves tackles like Paul Scholes

I have to say I thought he was our Paul Scholes too! Great reader of the game, very aware of what's going on around him, fantastic short and long range passer and a hammer of a right foot for longe range pot shots. But tackling ... hmmmm. However, I do think he has improved in that department since he's been here; he just needs to be careful at times with his challenges inside and around the box.

 

[lemonjelly]

Anyone comparing Neves tackling to Scholes woeful attempts needs their bumps felt.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Nah, he has been much better. Not really good fault if sterling takes a dive on the edge of our box, that's down to crap refereeing.

Can't agree, gave away the foul in the lead up to Leicester's goal, gave away the free kick in the lead up to City's goal, gave away the foul that lead to Aguero hitting the bar, almost gave away a penalty when trying to tackle Silva.

His tackling has been poor this season, far too eager, he needs to be much more careful.

 

[Kenny]

gave away the foul that lead to Aguero hitting the bar, a

That was Moutinho wasn't it?

 

[Tredman]

Can't agree, gave away the foul in the lead up to Leicester's goal, gave away the free kick in the lead up to City's goal, gave away the foul that lead to Aguero hitting the bar, almost gave away a penalty when trying to tackle Silva.

His tackling has been poor this season, far too eager, he needs to be much more careful.

Two of those were dives and one was not him

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

That was Moutinho wasn't it?

I thought it was Neves? To be fair in that run Sane HAD to be stopped, he'd already beaten 3 or 4 men. It's just the clumsy challenges that trouble me, as they can so often lead to chances/goals at this level, as has been proven already.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Two of those were dives and one was not him

Well that is subjective, however any thoughts that Neves's tackling has been "good" this season is more than a little "glass half full", it's by far the weakest part of his game and he needs to address it.

 

[Tredman]

Well that is subjective, however any thoughts that Neves's tackling has been "good" this season is more than a little "glass half full", it's by far the weakest part of his game and he needs to address it.

Not really, one was demonstrably not him unless he has some special powers not known to the rest of us; the sterling dive is clearly a dive; the silva dive is the only really subjective one

 

[YoungWolf]

Come on tredman yo know full well that the tackle by Moutinho was crap from Neves

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Not really, one was demonstrably not him unless he has some special powers not known to the rest of us; the sterling dive is clearly a dive; the silva dive is the only really subjective one

Dive or not, one was given as a foul and we were fortunate the other wasn't, so he needs to be more careful no? It's not a controversial point i'm making.
Neves has been responsible for the 2nd highest amount of fouls in the team, and 2 of them have lead to goals.

It's not a massive issue of course, but to say his tackling has been "good"........

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Which foul in the lead up to Leicester's goal is this, as neither came anything like from dead ball situations.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Which foul in the lead up to Leicester's goal is this, as neither came anything like from dead ball situations.

The 1st goal, there was a Neves foul within 20 seconds of the ball coming in from Albrighton.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Well I'd have to look back, but we evidently won the ball back from whichever set piece it was we conceded as Jota gave the ball away before it got out to Albrighton. We then don't stop the cross (Jonny) and then Doherty is a fucking moron. You really can't blame Neves for that or say that it was any kind of factor.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Well I'd have to look back, but we evidently won the ball back from whichever set piece it was we conceded as Jota gave the ball away before it got out to Albrighton. We then don't stop the cross (Jonny) and then Doherty is a fucking moron. You really can't blame Neves for that or say that it was any kind of factor.

I'm not BLAMING him, i'm saying that the suggestion that Neves's tackling has been good this season is incorrect, as on a number of occasions across just the last 2 games he has been guilty of giving away unnecessary fouls.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Reference to it here.

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[Deutsch Wolf]

And as I say, the set piece obviously came to nothing as we had the ball back...I'm not saying there wasn't a foul, I'm saying it had nothing at all to do with the goal (and you were saying he played a tacit part in it, he didn't).

 

[Penk Wolf]

Not really, one was demonstrably not him unless he has some special powers not known to the rest of us; the sterling dive is clearly a dive; the silva dive is the only really subjective one

Equally, he didn't get the ball either.

I don't think Neves is really noted for his tackling, but equally it hasn't really sprung to mind that he is particularly a par tackler either.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

And as I say, the set piece obviously came to nothing as we had the ball back...I'm not saying there wasn't a foul, I'm saying it had nothing at all to do with the goal (and you were saying he played a tacit part in it, he didn't).

Given how near in proximity it was to the goal, it's safe to say there would have been an entirely different set of circumstances if he hadn't made that foul, maybe Leicester would have gone on to score in that passage of play, maybe Maddison would have blazed it over the bar. But given it happened so soon before the goal, I CAN say that it had a part to play in the goal, because it did.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Given how near in proximity it was to the goal, it's safe to say there would have been an entirely different set of circumstances if he hadn't made that foul, maybe Leicester would have gone on to score in that passage of play, maybe Maddison would have blazed it over the bar. But given it happened so soon before the goal, I CAN say that it had a part to play in the goal, because it did.

What? You're on about a different goal. This alleged foul happened before the first one.

How about next time Doherty controls it straight out of play and the opposition score 20 minutes later, I blame him? That'd go down well I'm sure.