Summer 2021 transfer window

[Tony Towner]

Hubris

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The Brexit rule change meant that was the only window to get him. The really big boys were sniffing around. We went big to blow them off the hand. We will only know if it was a good gamble in hindsight.

 

[Haggstone]

The Brexit rule change meant that was the only window to get him. The really big boys were sniffing around. We went big to blow them off the hand. We will only know if it was a good gamble in hindsight.

But what attributes does he possess that had the big boys sniffing around?

I want the kid to make a go of it I really do. But he needs to throw us a bone at some point surely?

 

[PuntsWolf]

For the xA what qualifies to register for that? A completed cross or simply any cross

 

[prawnking]

For someone who 'specialises in getting crosses in to an excellent finisher' - he doesn't do it often enough, outside of a 3 month purple patch around Xmas 2019

This bit is just factually incorrect.

If we're gonna crucify him on stats let's get them right. His assists were spread pretty evenly through the season between September 2019 and January 2020, with a couple more when the season restarted in June.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

His positioning and movement are excellent. I don’t think that can be taught. The rest will improve as he grows.

If we were to fuck him off and then he became a world beater elsewhere the wailing and gnashing of teeth on here about the club should have given him more time will be utterly predictable.

 

[AndyWolves]

But what attributes does he possess that had the big boys sniffing around?

I want the kid to make a go of it I really do. But he needs to throw us a bone at some point surely?

If you can see it you see it, if you can't then you can't.

I'll try to explain, for me, he has the thing you can't teach which is knowing where to be at the right time. He's a kid for sure, and that's holding him back. Wherever he ends up, I think he's going to score bucket loads.

 

[prawnking]

The Brexit rule change meant that was the only window to get him. The really big boys were sniffing around. We went big to blow them off the hand. We will only know if it was a good gamble in hindsight.

I mean, this is really 90% guesswork isn't it??

 

[Tredman]

His positioning and movement are excellent. I don’t think that can be taught. The rest will improve as he grows.

If we were to fuck him off and then he became a world beater elsewhere the wailing and gnashing of teeth on here about the club should have given him more time will be utterly predictable.

We’re stuck with him and really have to hope it pays off.

 

[Trips]

Pretty obvious really, as is his entire narrative at Wolves so far.

First season he was being slowly integrated into the team. He didn't play a single 90 mins in the PL, only started 8 times and had an average of 30 mins a game. Scored 1, assisted 1, nothing special.

Second season he did very well.

This season he's struggled, like most of our players.

Anyone who doesn't like him, fine. He's not gonna be to all tastes. Just say you don't think he brings enough.

Stats either matter or they don't. To ignore or downplay last season and try and combine 2018/19 with this shit sandwich of a season reeks of bias and pure agenda.

Unfortunately for those with such an agenda, Nuno (in whom we trust, of course) keeps picking him anyway.

Interesting that integrating Adama is acceptable to some fans, but no way they could afford that luxury to Fabio.

I havent downplayed his contributions last season, at times he was superb and contributed to victories. It's just that isnt regularly enough.

The first season he was poor, second season good (very good in parts) this season dreadful.

The issue with Adama is that if he isnt getting crosses in (and not behind the goal, but in the box) he doesnt bring anything else to the party.

For me he isnt worth persisting with, for others he is. Opinions hey.

Anyway, I'm done with discussing him. He will start tomorrow, I will hope he does well and we win.

 

[Haggstone]

If you can see it you see it, if you can't then you can't.

I'll try to explain, for me, he has the thing you can't teach which is knowing where to be at the right time. He's a kid for sure, and that's holding him back. Wherever he ends up, I think he's going to score bucket loads.

Fair enough. I suppose when we signed an 18 year old for a club record fee I was expecting to see more than just a decent bit of movement. That’s my problem to deal with though.

 

[prawnking]

If you can see it you see it, if you can't then you can't.

Fabio Silva. He's, quite literally, magic

 

[AndyWolves]

Fabio Silva. He's, quite literally, magic

You know, Neto, Adama, Fabiooooooo

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

He was supposed to developing in the U23s don’t forget. We had no intention of him being the main front man yet but circumstances have kicked us in the bollocks.

 

[prawnking]

Interesting that integrating Adama is acceptable to some fans, but no way they could afford that luxury to Fabio.

I havent downplayed his contributions last season, at times he was superb and contributed to victories. It's just that isnt regularly enough.

Show me where I've said I'm not willing to let Fabio integrate? No problem with him baking in Nuno's development oven for four bloody years, as long as we have another striker fit for purpose during that time. Read my posts.

And you certainly downplayed last season, just as you've up played(?) this season and his first season, even going so far as to make up some mythical Christmas 'purple patch'

This isn't about opinions, it's about skewed agendas. I don't like this current incarnation of Moutinho, I don't have to shit all over his first couple of seasons with Wolves and entire previous career to bolster that.

 

[AndyWolves]

Fair enough. I suppose when we signed an 18 year old for a club record fee I was expecting to see more than just a decent bit of movement. That’s my problem to deal with though.

That's fair, and it's just my view of course.

Rightly or wrongly I try to take the transfer fee out of the equation when evaluating a player, because it doesn't affect their performance or ability.

Evaluating the value of a transfer is a separate conversation, for me anyway.

 

[Haggstone]

That's fair, and it's just my view of course.

Rightly or wrongly I try to take the transfer fee out of the equation when evaluating a player, because it doesn't affect their performance or ability.

Evaluating the value of a transfer is a separate conversation, for me anyway.

Well it isn’t for me. I support a provincial club that doesn’t have a bottomless pit of resources. I imagine his weekly wage is considerably higher than your average U21 player too?

 

[Templeton Peck]

I remember Ronaldo playing at the Mol when we won 1-0. He was utter shite and we were all singing 'You're not the real Ronaldo'. Let's give Silva a chance eh?

 

[PuntsWolf]

He could become the best striker there ever was. That still doesn’t hide the fact we have massively overpaid.

I don’t why people pretend that isn’t the case and we “scared away the big boys”

 

[Trips]

even going so far as to make up some mythical Christmas 'purple patch'

I said "a 3 month purple patch around Xmas 2019"

6 of his 9 assists came in November, December and January that season. One before November, and 2 post lockdown.

Not really mythical