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Right, Nigel Farage.

I don't want to make a lot of background, because people can't help what they were born into. I didn't have a difficult background, we were aspiring middle class. Alright, I've hit the skids at times and had literally nothing in my pocket, but that's my lookout. However, man of the people Nigel Farage was educated at Dulwich College. He wasn't very good there by the way, as by conventional measures, he isn't very intelligent. But while he was there, he did brag about having the same initials as the National Front, sang "Gas The Jews" and was reported for having "fascist" views.

Thereafter he became a City stockbroker which I'm sure we can agree is real anti-elistist, man of the people stuff. Maybe he was bringing them down from the inside. Maybe he got let go because he wasn't very good. Who can say.

As for his political career, let's see who he's pally with:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Goldsmith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orbán

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Le_Pen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones

Sadly the balance side of this equation where he's friends with a lot of progressive liberal types appears to be missing.

Now none of us are perfect. We can't choose our family, but we can choose our friends. I happen to hang out with a lot of people who talk about Wolves and football a lot and you might wonder why I don't use my mind more freely and talk with fellow linguists and writers, and you might be right. But at least none of my friends are fucking racists.

But then surely Nige himself isn't a racist, is he?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27459923

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-oldham-by-saying-town-split-on-racial-lines

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-lbc-3550998

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/31/boris-johnson-nigel-farage-in-quotes

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rty-gifts-european-elections-eu-a8920126.html

But maybe all that's just harmless banter and he's worn out from his tireless work of serving his people as an MEP.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage

Oh.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-worst-8302679

Oh.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...t-committee/news/arron-banks-nca-quote-17-19/

Oh.

But then, he wants Brexit and Brexit is what the people want.

So let's say I come to your business tomorrow. Tell you that your management are dreadful, your crooked owners are in the hands of moneymen and I will make it all better. Yay! Vote Dan. Get all these people out, now.

Then on Day One, I submit my action plan.

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He has NO policies.

None of what he stands for bears up to any scrutiny whatsoever. GATT 24 is his latest thing. It's a pile of shit. He's made it up.

Now, you might want us to leave the EU for your very own personal reasons. And I respect that. I won't agree with you, and I'll argue with you about it, but fine.

You vote for Nigel Farage, you are voting for one of the vilest cunts in history, and you deserve zero respect. And I haven't even gone through the tip of the iceberg here with him.
 
Look at the colour of the skin of the people in that poster and tell me honestly that it doesn’t concern you.
 
Look, it's just a coincidence, yeah.

(And nothing to do with the EU)
 
Interested in these financial projections that "to be honest, looked pretty good for Brexit" by the way. Because if they do and they're credible, they've basically knocked every single leading economist in the world out of the park. Shame they haven't made them more public.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Right, Nigel Farage.

I don't want to make a lot of background, because people can't help what they were born into. I didn't have a difficult background, we were aspiring middle class. Alright, I've hit the skids at times and had literally nothing in my pocket, but that's my lookout. However, man of the people Nigel Farage was educated at Dulwich College. He wasn't very good there by the way, as by conventional measures, he isn't very intelligent. But while he was there, he did brag about having the same initials as the National Front, sang "Gas The Jews" and was reported for having "fascist" views.

Thereafter he became a City stockbroker which I'm sure we can agree is real anti-elistist, man of the people stuff. Maybe he was bringing them down from the inside. Maybe he got let go because he wasn't very good. Who can say.

As for his political career, let's see who he's pally with:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Goldsmith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orbán

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Le_Pen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones

Sadly the balance side of this equation where he's friends with a lot of progressive liberal types appears to be missing.

Now none of us are perfect. We can't choose our family, but we can choose our friends. I happen to hang out with a lot of people who talk about Wolves and football a lot and you might wonder why I don't use my mind more freely and talk with fellow linguists and writers, and you might be right. But at least none of my friends are fucking racists.

But then surely Nige himself isn't a racist, is he?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27459923

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-oldham-by-saying-town-split-on-racial-lines

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-lbc-3550998

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/31/boris-johnson-nigel-farage-in-quotes

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rty-gifts-european-elections-eu-a8920126.html

But maybe all that's just harmless banter and he's worn out from his tireless work of serving his people as an MEP.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/may/24/mps-expenses-ukip-nigel-farage

Oh.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-worst-8302679

Oh.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...t-committee/news/arron-banks-nca-quote-17-19/

Oh.

But then, he wants Brexit and Brexit is what the people want.

So let's say I come to your business tomorrow. Tell you that your management are dreadful, your crooked owners are in the hands of moneymen and I will make it all better. Yay! Vote Dan. Get all these people out, now.

Then on Day One, I submit my action plan.

Blank-Piece-of-Paper-1cauvam.png


He has NO policies.

None of what he stands for bears up to any scrutiny whatsoever. GATT 24 is his latest thing. It's a pile of shit. He's made it up.

Now, you might want us to leave the EU for your very own personal reasons. And I respect that. I won't agree with you, and I'll argue with you about it, but fine.

You vote for Nigel Farage, you are voting for one of the vilest cunts in history, and you deserve zero respect. And I haven't even gone through the tip of the iceberg here with him.
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I can see you have put a lot of effort into that post so I will go through and read as much as I can. From what I have seen so far I still see zero evidence of racism. I do see someone that is happy to capitalise but is that really the issue here?

Most of the MPs we could potentially vote for are significantly wealthier than the average guy or girl including the likes of dear Lammy, Corbyn and even social media favourite Femi. So Farage being successful should surely not be an issue should it?

Is this really about Brexit or is it more an argument of globalism and socialism driven by tribalism?

I think unfiltered immigration is a terrible idea, that said I agree the breaking point banner is distasteful but in the current state of politics where it is all about reactions it did it's job as it is still being mentioned now.

Let's take Lammy recent outburst calling anyone he doesn't agree with a Nazi or a fascist, is this not a verbal "breaking point"

I disagreed with the milkshake, I disagreed with the egg. But yet here seems to be one rule for one and another rule for those in the tribe.

I will continue having a read of the above but so far I still see nothing.


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It's an argument about how despicable I find Nigel Farage.

His attempts to position himself as the common man are part of that. Because he isn't, at all.

Read it all you like but I suspect you'll say "I'm not convinced". At which point there is no point trying to convince you and I wish you good luck with your racist MEP.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Interested in these financial projections that "to be honest, looked pretty good for Brexit" by the way. Because if they do and they're credible, they've basically knocked every single leading economist in the world out of the park. Shame they haven't made them more public.
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If I had access to them I would gladly share but there were 4 independent reviews all of which had similar conclusions. These were by Mazak UK based in Worcester so by all means if anyone you know works for then they may well have seen the same thing. In very basic terms they concluded that the short term impact would be negative but longer term would be beneficial.

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Siggy said:
If I had access to them I would gladly share but there were 4 independent reviews all of which had similar conclusions. These were by Mazak UK based in Worcester so by all means if anyone you know works for then they may well have seen the same thing. In very basic terms they concluded that the short term impact would be negative but longer term would be beneficial.
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Even Jacob Rees-Mogg thinks it may take 50 years so might I suggest politely that Mazak UK are talking out of their fucking arse.

No it won't be beneficial.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
It's an argument about how despicable I find Nigel Farage.

His attempts to position himself as the common man are part of that. Because he isn't, at all.

Read it all you like but I suspect you'll say "I'm not convinced". At which point there is no point trying to convince you and I wish you good luck with your racist MEP.
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I don't think he is a man for the people, I don't think any of them are. At the moment it feels like picking someone you hate the least, not good reasons for voting I admit.

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Deutsch Wolf said:
Even Jacob Rees-Mogg thinks it may take 50 years so might I suggest politely that Mazak UK are talking out of their fucking arse.

No it won't be beneficial.
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Sorry but that's completely out of context Moggy didn't say that at all.

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Yes, Farage is a racist cunt. But can you please stop referring to him as Kermit faced, you are ruining my childhood...
 
BillyDee said:
Yes, Farage is a racist cunt. But can you please stop referring to him as Kermit faced, you are ruining my childhood...
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Somewhere up the stair, is a Romanian and his eight kids.

(Yes I know that was Robin, I couldn't think of a Kermit song that fit)
 
Well yes the clue is in the first sentence. It's not about damage recovery for 50 years it's about not fully knowing the true impact for several decades. And that's true it would take us in a vastly different direction and you couldn't fully understand the implications over a few years or even a decade.

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Siggy said:
Sorry but that's completely out of context Moggy didn't say that at all.

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He said it would take 50 years before we see the benefits of Brexit.

Its this bit I still can't get my head around, why would anyone vote to be worse off (JRM and his ilk will not be worse off as they are disaster capitalists with large financial bets on the country failing).
 
And as for referring to him as Moggy why not? I hold no affection for him at all. Similar with Bojo but I must admit I reckon he would be a great laugh on a heavy night out but as a politician I'm very sceptical.

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Another Brexit Party candidate said 30 years just to break even with where we are now. I mean that's worse.

I'm 38. Not sure what benefit I'm going to be getting from this.

I'm a freelancer and if my clients go, I have an income of £0. This isn't a fucking game as your mate Nige likes to think it is. It's people's livelihoods on the line.
 
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