REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[nimrod]

The people chose to leave and if you think that it was the lies of the campaign your wrong. People vote based on their views, unfortunately the EU fails to deliver tangible improvements to peoples lives and remember people who have nothing having nothing to lose.

i agree in the main with this point.

just to add though that it's the history of electioneering lies and soundbites over the years that's also helped to contribute to a situation where the nation sticks two fingers up to the wishes of a serving prime minister. the fact that falsehoods were told was at least acknowledged in Parliament yesterday during PMQ's

Extract from PMQs as reported from BBC site
Former Conservative attorney general Dominic Grieve accuses Vote Leave of making "false" and "in many cases unfulfilable" claims during the EU referendum campaign - and warns it could erode public trust in Parliament.
He says the referendum result highlighted the "increasing disconnect" between the public and politicians, and adds:
If we do not restore that trust then it seems to me that the role of this House is fatally undermined."

who knows whether those he accuses of the false claims feel the same way. perhaps in the HoC lobby afterwards they also falsely accused him of "misinterpreting their attentions" or of "not accepting the result of the democratic process".

 

[thehistorymakers]

I blame the socialist, olive eating, African doctors.

I blame the middle class and Socialist Elite, that have done nothing for the working classes, now they are suffering, they want the whole world to know how unfair everything is.

 

[thehistorymakers]

I blame the socialist, olive eating, African doctors.

I have nothing agaist African doctors, just think their poor suffering children deserve health care and doctors too.

 

[thehistorymakers]

I blame the socialist, olive eating, African doctors.

It's not the socialist that are to blame, it's the socialist elite!

 

[Sniffer]

Whoever said the time between 9.35 and 9.39 for the words 'Socialist Elite' to appear in a comment from THM has won the sweep. You know who you are and need to claim your prize via a PM.

 

[So Long Architect]

I have nothing agaist African doctors, just thing their poor suffering children deserve health care and doctors too.

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE (AFRICAN) CHILDREN?!?

 

[machin05]

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE (AFRICAN) CHILDREN?!?

Yeah, bloody EU and their open borders with Africa, or something.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Yeah, bloody EU and their open borders with Africa, or something.

Many Africans living in England voted to leave. It must be true, I read it on the BBC internet page today.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Whoever said the time between 9.35 and 9.39 for the words 'Socialist Elite' to appear in a comment from THM has won the sweep. You know who you are and need to claim your prize via a PM.

They were fishing Sniffer. I had to get off my tractor too, wankers.

 

[visage]

It didnt take long after the result for us to move on to repatriation.....

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

Another pledge the Brexit campaign can't keep.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...n-warned-brexit-will-not-mean-greater-catches

NHS
Free movement
Fishing

When a campaign makes promises and pseudo-promises it knows it can't or doesn't even want to keep, in effect deliberately misleading and conning the voting public, it alienates and disconnects and undermines democracy itself.

The Brexit referendum was not democratic, it was deception and manipulation.

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

It didnt take long after the result for us to move on to repatriation.....

Where's that being considered now Vis?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Rewind to 2013 for a second:

http://www.scottishindependencereferendum.info/whitepaper.html

The SNP published a 670 page white paper on Scottish independence prior to the referendum. Now you can disagree with every single one of the 670 pages if you like, but objections are handled, projections are made, contingencies are in place, no-one can be in any doubt that if the vote was for independence, this was the plan and this would be how the SNP went about dealing with the entire process.

It is not acceptable that those who were frothing away, wild eyed, about this being the UK's only possible way forward a whole week ago have NO answers and have brazenly done NO preparation.

 

[So Long Architect]

It didnt take long after the result for us to move on to repatriation.....

Spain have seen their opportunity to send THM back, have they? Can't blame them, I suppose.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Another pledge the Brexit campaign can't keep.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...n-warned-brexit-will-not-mean-greater-catches

NHS
Free movement
Fishing

When a campaign makes promises and pseudo-promises it knows it can't or doesn't even want to keep, in effect deliberately misleading and conning the voting public, it alienates and disconnects and undermines democracy itself.

The Brexit referendum was not democratic, it was deception and manipulation.

That article is speculation and EU ass licking. There is no story there. The Guardian can't stand their there anti UK and Pro EU campaign failed. That paper is doing a diservice to the UK.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Spain have seen their opportunity to send THM back, have they? Can't blame them, I suppose.

Hahaha

 

[Bit on the shaggies]

That article is speculation and EU ass licking. There is no story there. The Guardian can't stand their there anti UK and Pro EU campaign failed. That paper is doing a diservice to the UK.

Which bit is speculation?

 

[thehistorymakers]

Rewind to 2013 for a second:

http://www.scottishindependencereferendum.info/whitepaper.html

The SNP published a 670 page white paper on Scottish independence prior to the referendum. Now you can disagree with every single one of the 670 pages if you like, but objections are handled, projections are made, contingencies are in place, no-one can be in any doubt that if the vote was for independence, this was the plan and this would be how the SNP went about dealing with the entire process.

It is not acceptable that those who were frothing away, wild eyed, about this being the UK's only possible way forward a whole week ago have NO answers and have brazenly done NO preparation.

Not true, we have an elected government, that supported the remain campaign. They are trying to drag their feet, so the leave camp get the blame. At the moment the remain camps are doing a diservice to the UK. Stop running your country down. The bullying coming out of Germany and France, should make you see, what cunts the EU are. Stop supporting people who are attacking our country's interests. It's a fucking disgrace.

 

[Johnny75]

Did the Remain camp prevent the Leave camp writing and publishing a document?

 

[thehistorymakers]

Which bit is speculation?

Iln visages link.