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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

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Parkins left foot said:
This thread is going the same way that the earlier one did before it was closed off - none of it is helpful.

Those who believe that we will be into a second vote should consider whether that actually improves the situation - it may go remain then, but that will not change the divisive nature of the political debate within the country as would not expect it to be any bigger a win than it was the first time around. Only 1 - 1 then so do we then go for a final decider or a penalty shoot out?

Think that most consider that a No Deal option is not one anyone should want to take apart from certain idiots in the Tory party (& that goes for the EU as well as us).

Extending A50 doesn't as the Commission has said that this is the best on offer so delaying doesn't improve things. The only option (& there are bits I don't particularly like) is to accept the deal as set & then move on. It at least gets us part of the way & allows other negotiation to go on.
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Never been keen on a second referendum as the first one was divisive and saw a rise in racial assaults. However, things have moved on and we're running out of options. The EU will only allow more time if Remain is an option. May's deal will fall and there is no support for no deal in the Commons so they'll have to go back to the people with a simple no deal v remain question.
 
I don't really think it's either good or bad. Just thought it is interesting that though less EU nationals are coming to the UK, other internationals are coming instead.

For some leavers, it may be an unintended consequence that as a result of their leave vote, they see more non-white faces entering the UK, and may not like that.

Think it just goes to show that brexit will not resolve the perceived immigration issue we are told exists.
 
To add to that LJ, the majority of non-EU migrants are students or dependents and only 22% have a definite job. This compares with 46% from the EU who have definite jobs.

The government have had the power to limit migration all along and have done nothing about it. In fact the reverse is true and they don't give a shit about it.
 
Prime Minister Theresa May has accepted the BBC's offer to take part in a debate on Brexit on Sunday 9 December, two days before MPs vote on her deal.

But Labour sources say the party has not yet agreed to take part, with Jeremy Corbyn telling This Morning he preferred ITV's offer.


The BBC said it was "delighted" Mrs May had accepted the offer.


It added it would be discussing debate formats with both parties and would announce further details soon.


Mr Corbyn claimed he preferred ITV's bid out of "respect" for viewers who wanted to watch the I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here! final on ITV the same evening - 9 December.


"I want to watch it myself," he said.


When approached by the BBC, ITV confirmed the final of the show would air at 21:00 GMT.
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Fuck off Jez.

I won't be watching regardless, two people who have absolutely nothing to say to me.
 
Also, for anyone who believes in Brexit, John Redwood is your spiritual leader.

As UK GDP data begins in 1948 I've now confirmed that between 1948 & 1972 when we joined the EC, growth amounted to 118%. From 1993 to 2017, following completion of the single market, growth was just 69% In other words, growth inside the EU was 41% lower than before we joined.
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When I look back at how much I grew between 1993 and 1998 and how much I've grown since, I can only conclude that I should have stayed at school for another ten years. I could have become one of the world's greatest basketball players.
 
What an absolute shower of shite they all are.
As jrodrigues so poetically put it on the last matchday thread, I'm in shambles with the whole thing.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Also, for anyone who believes in Brexit, John Redwood is your spiritual leader.



When I look back at how much I grew between 1993 and 1998 and how much I've grown since, I can only conclude that I should have stayed at school for another ten years. I could have become one of the world's greatest basketball players.
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Also love the fact he cites the period where we were essentially run on centre left economics as the time of amazing growth.
 
So T-Bag says there may be a second vote.

For MPs. If the reject her deal the first time, she may return it to them for reconsideration.

But the public vote is absolutely final and shows the will of the people. Hmmmm - seems fair.
 
Donald Tusk warns it will be a 'No deal' or 'No Brexit'
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
So T-Bag says there may be a second vote.

For MPs. If the reject her deal the first time, she may return it to them for reconsideration.

But the public vote is absolutely final and shows the will of the people. Hmmmm - seems fair.
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From other articles it seems Parliament can't hold a second vote unless a number of MP's say they've reconsidered and asked the speaker to hold another vote. I can't see the latter happening.

She'll be gone anyway if she loses the vote.
 
Langers said:
I wonder how many people with working brain cells would choose the former over the latter?
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Reading the lbc comments on Facebook, leave voters are generally still of the 'fuck em, we're England' opinion. I think those types wanted no deal in the first place. Fucking morons.

And unfortunately, regardless of the number of working brain cells, their vote still counted the same as the liberal elite intelligista.

We desperately need MPs to decide to act for the good of the people, rather than enact the will of the people. But they're all spineless, selfish cunts and so it won't happen.
 
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I wonder if the original story was just a couple of lines shoved away in the bottom corner of a page?
 
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