REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[ROVERT47]

I asked the question on Friday and never got a sensible answer so I'll try again.
There are obviously some on this form who voted to leave, they may have children or grandchildren, given that the suggestion that a leave vote was based on immigration only is classed as being arrogant I would have thought that those with children saw something in a life outside he EU tha would benefit them.
I would like to know what that is and it's a serious question.

 

[Dinowolf]

There will be groans, moans and tears as people position themselves within the UK, before we start the exit negotiations with the EU.

It will be a long and hard road before we are extricated from the EU.

Most sensible people know that and are prepared for it.

 

[Kenny]

There will be groans, moans and tears as people position themselves within the UK, before we start the exit negotiations with the EU.

It will be a long and hard road before we are extricated from the EU.

Most sensible people know that and are prepared for it.

Where would you stand if the Tories decide to leave the start of the exit process until 2020 and then the new Government at that point scrapped the decision to leave (based upon campaigning to do so)?

 

[Dinowolf]

Those who've voted leave what is their vision of Britain in 10 years time and what are they expecting their lives to be like?

If I thought you were genuinely interested I would answer you, but I feel in the present climate it isn't worth it, as whatever I say would be picked over and criticised unnecessarily by those who didn't vote leave whose feelings are still raw.

Maybe in a few months.

 

[Dinowolf]

Interesting few years ahead. 3 years down the line when the economy is tanking you could see Labour winning if they stood on a platform of re-joining the EU.

I doubt the EU will exist in its present state in 3 years time.

 

[Dinowolf]

Where would you stand if the Tories decide to leave the start of the exit process until 2020 and then the new Government at that point scrapped the decision to leave (based upon campaigning to do so)?

It'll be done before the end of the year.

 

[Premier Quality]

The Guardian was staunchly for Remain and is still campaigning.

Just watched Polly Toynby (Guardian editor) on the Marr show this morning spreading rubbish about the referendum.

They don't like losing.

She's a complete moron - and always on the losing side of everything she campaigns for. You'd imagine at some point they'd want someone slightly in touch with the people of the country but the guardian just lets her bang on. I suppose she's kind of the reverse Katie Hopkins.

 

[Premier Quality]

Interesting few years ahead. 3 years down the line when the economy is tanking you could see Labour winning if they stood on a platform of re-joining the EU.

Apparently the lib dems are doing that already. Desperate opportunism, but will probably get them some seats.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Interesting few years ahead. 3 years down the line when the economy is tanking you could see Labour winning if they stood on a platform of re-joining the EU.

In is in, out is out. It's time to accept it and work together for a better future for the UK. The EU was not working and they will have to change drastically to save it. They are already talking of being more centralised and having an EU army. That is going away from what British people want. We were holding them back, they were holding us back.

 

[Tredman]

Apparently the lib dems are doing that already. Desperate opportunism, but will probably get them some seats.

They have always been massively pro-EU,they are just sticking to their principles. Unusual for a political party I know.

 

[thehistorymakers]

They have always been massively pro-EU,they are just sticking to their principles. Unusual for a political party I know.

They didn't stick to their princples, when they backed a Conservative government to give Clegg his moment of glory. They are in the gutter and would willingly take up the chalice of popularism, for another moment of glory. The EU will be a very different place in 5 years time. There is a misty eyed view, that the EU was working, it isn't.
What is the point in restructuring all our trade deals and everything else, which will take time, to say let's start all over again and join the EU? After 10 or 20 years if the EU is a different place, a trading agreement but you keep your own sovereignty, your own jurisdiction and have some control of your borders, maybe. But not like it was.

 

[Tredman]

They didn't stick to their princples, when backed a Conservative government to give his moment of glory. They are in the gutter and would willingly take up the chalice of popularism, for another moment of glory. The EU will be a very different place in 5 years time. There is a misty eyed view, that the EU was working, it isn't.
What is the point in restructuring all our trade deals and everything else, which will take time, to say let's start all over again and join the EU? After 10 or 20 years if the EU is a different place, a trading agreement but you keep your own sovereignty, your own jurisdiction and have some control of your borders, maybe. But not like it was.

They are not your party I get it. The rest of your post is just supposition.

 

[thehistorymakers]

They are not your party I get it. The rest of your post is just supposition.

I don't have a party since Blair hijacked the Labour party.

 

[nimrod]

What an utter c*nt

Imagine the despair you would feel if you had believed the shower of lying c*nts

in which case he's saying that, based on his 'extrapolation', they can afford to pay the NHS an extra £350m/week.

so come on, show us the extrapolated plan and let's get on with it.

 

[thehistorymakers]

David Cameron said he would reduce immigration to under a 100, 000 a year. Politicians say what you want to hear.

 

[nimrod]

David Cameron said he would reduce immigration to under a 100, 000 a year. Politicians say what you want to hear.

are you defending the lie? and second lie to cover up the first one?

 

[thehistorymakers]

are you defending the lie? and second lie to cover up the first one?

Politics is a very dirty game. All sides say what you want to hear. Most people understand that.

 

[thehistorymakers]

They are all the same and most people realise it.

From the link below.


http://iaindale.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/labours-27-broken-manifesto-promises.html?m=1

 

[nimrod]

Politics is a very dirty game. All sides say what you want to hear. Most people understand that.

clearly, but that wasn't what i asked you. i asked whether you were defending the lie or not. are you?

 

[thehistorymakers]

clearly, but that wasn't what i asked you. i asked whether you were defending the lie or not. are you?

I never took any notice of of it, that's the truth.

I do know, that Tony Blair promised twice that we would have a referendum on the EU. We never had one, which is ironic because now he is saying that he wouldn't count a second referendum out. You couldn't make it up. Hahahahah