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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

leedswolf said:
I thought you didn't like uncontrolled immigration into the UK. Or is it only into Cambs that raises your objections?
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Compromise. Ireland voted to remain. Ireland north and south don't want a border. Ireland has a minimal eastern European economic migrant issue with no tent shanties and Hugh scale begging scams. Northern Ireland and Ireland are unique and a solution should be found that recognises this
 
Cyber-_-man said:
Why can't you? Its not to the detriment of the EU? Who says that Ireland , a nation so close to the UK their rugby team plays as one cannot be given special status to avoid having an inland border. If your answer is the EU then you can now see why 17 m voted leave
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So do NI citizens need to show their passports to travel even though they are UK nationals? Do you not see the issue with this?
 
No it doesn't. It says you cannot restrict movement. My solution exempts Irish citizens post brexit from destruction and therefore complies. Port and airport controls do the rest
 
Cyber-_-man said:
Why can't you? Its not to the detriment of the EU? Who says that Ireland , a nation so close to the UK their rugby team plays as one cannot be given special status to avoid having an inland border. If your answer is the EU then you can now see why 17 m voted leave
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Cyber-_-man said:
Compromise. Ireland voted to remain. Ireland north and south don't want a border. Ireland has a minimal eastern European economic migrant issue with no tent shanties and Hugh scale begging scams. Northern Ireland and Ireland are unique and a solution should be found that recognises this
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Ireland are in the treaty. They do not want to leave it. Therefore they are not going to WANT to negotiate separately.

There will be no compromise on this. There cannot be.
 
Cyber-_-man said:
No it doesn't. It says you cannot restrict movement. My solution exempts Irish citizens post brexit from destruction and therefore complies. Port and airport controls do the rest
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IT FUCKING DOESNT.

Your solution shits on the Treaty from a Great Height because Cyber-Man says so. It is an absolute non-starter, especially as the Irish government have no desire to negotiate anything separate, which for some reason you keep skimming over.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
Jesus wept.

Because they are ALREADY IN. Your little passport control at the airport is nonsense because anyone can get in a boat from anywhere in northern ireland and sail over to anywhere over here without a passport.
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Not post brexit as passport control is required ffs
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
IT $#@!ING DOESNT.

Your solution $#@!s on the Treaty from a Great Height because Cyber-Man says so. It is an absolute non-starter, especially as the Irish government have no desire to negotiate anything separate, which for some reason you keep skimming over.
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Please please please show me where it says that. I am looking at hundreds of pages and can't find it. Show me it and I agree its dead
 
Cyber-_-man said:
Please please please show me where it says that. I am looking at hundreds of pages and can't find it. Show me it and I agree its dead
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ALL EU MEMBER STATES MUST HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND NEGOTIATE AS A BLOC.

There are no exceptions. You open things for the Irish on that border, then you have to for everyone.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
ALL EU MEMBER STATES MUST HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND NEGOTIATE AS A BLOC.

There are no exceptions. You open things for the Irish on that border, then you have to for everyone.
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OK. If that really is the case then its all fucked. We can't leave but we will so let's see what happens. Pathetic one size fits all. Let's see what brexit looks like in 2 years. Its pointless debating what we want or don't want as all that brings is shouts of nonsense. So my answer will now be wait and see
 
Cyber-_-man said:
Yes. Small price to pay. Show your passport. Whoopie
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I imagine that'll be popular with the people of NI. Essentially what you're saying to NI is if you didn't vote Brexit, it's tough shit oh and you need a passport to travel to the U.K. which you're still a part of.

Small price to pay for you not wanting something you didn't vote for. Suck it up cupcake you're out of the EU and you'll like it OK.

You can't divide the UK up like that, what's next, Scots need a passport to travel to England? and do mainland Britons need a passport to travel to NI as they couldn't get back without one and who does those checks? Essentially your goal is to break up the Union isn't it, starting with the isolation of NI.
 
leedswolf said:
What about the near 300km open border between the EU and NI?. EU passport holders legitimately disembark at one of the many Irish ports or airports and then 'flood' over the border into the UK.
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I've only been on a ferry from Holyhead to Dublin, do they check passports on ferries from other Countries or are all UK and Irish ports open border at the moment?
 
Johnny75 said:
I imagine that'll be popular with the people of NI. Essentially what you're saying to NI is if you didn't vote Brexit, it's tough $#@! oh and you need a passport to travel to the U.K. which you're still a part of.

Small price to pay for you not wanting something you didn't vote for. Suck it up cupcake you're out of the EU and you'll like it OK.

You can't divide the UK up like that, what's next, Scots need a passport to travel to England? and do mainland Britons need a passport to travel to NI as they couldn't get back without one and who does those checks? Essentially your goal is to break up the Union isn't it, starting with the isolation of NI.
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No last time I checked Scotland wasn't an island. So lets just wait and see
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
ALL EU MEMBER STATES MUST HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND NEGOTIATE AS A BLOC.

There are no exceptions. You open things for the Irish on that border, then you have to for everyone.
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To be fair, we managed to get out of the 48 hour working week, so I guess Countries can make separate compromise.
 
Because it isn't the border. The border runs from Derry down to Warrenpoint.

You can have all those lovely passport controls you like but they mean nothing. Everyone coming from Northern Ireland is ALREADY within the UK so there is no passport to be shown. Your idea doesn't work. You probably should come up with something else.
 
Penk Wolf said:
To be fair, we managed to get out of the 48 hour working week, so I guess Countries can make separate compromise.
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We didn't.

Workers have to sign an opt out. The UK didn't get out of the directive. It is entirely voluntary upon the individual. The country is signed up
 
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