REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Paddingtonwolf]

Very general but also quite often very accurate.

 

[ROVERT47]

I don't want another seudo-tory in charge of the Labour Party thank you...I voted for Corbyn and am happy with him. The Blairites can feck off and join the Conservatives

+1

Quality.

 

[So Long Architect]

That's not what she said SLA. Sturgeon said she'd spoken to Khan on independence for both London and Scotland. Her words not mine.

And why should London get special treatment in negotiations?

And people wonder why the country is divided with this sort of unhelpful bollocks. London is part of and the same as the rest of the UK and the sooner Londoners realise that the better it will be for the UK.

He's the mayor of one of the largest cities in the world, elected to look after the interests of its residents. Why shouldn't he put their case forward? Kind of his job, isn't it?

Sturgeon may have said it, albeit in a roundabout way, but it clearly isn't true and is utterly nonsensical so it's as meaningless as any other untruth in the campaign.

 

[Jolemai]

Have a look at every production line especially in the food industry remove all the foreign workers and then try and fill it with unemployed British workers ill guarantee you'll struggle.

Probably because they know foreign workers are generally more reliable, have less time off and are more willing to work overtime when asked.

And I'm being very general in that statement before I get responses!

Would you say that there are a number of jobs out there that Brits wont even consider but foreign workers jump at the chance to do?

 

[ROVERT47]

At the moment Corbyn is one big fudge. He cannot lead the party in the style he'd like because of the PLP. His views may be consistent with those that elected him, but aren't with the majority of his MP's. I do think the party would be better served splitting.

Probably a good idea as it'll be generations before the current mess that it's in at the moment will ever see the keys to 10 Downing St.

 

[darlowolf64]

We don't want them cheers very much.

Corbyn is going to be toast. Your vote for him will be overturned Mike. Blairism will see this as an opportunity to re-take control of the party, in the same way as the demise of Dave is going to see the hard right buffoon element of mine lust for power and probably get it.

What a truly depressing day.

Please take them... Or they can form their own party and disappear off the electoral map

 

[thehistorymakers]

The country feels different to me today too. It's not a country I like very much, feel proud of or want to be part of at the moment.

You could move to Westminster or Winchester, they feel the same as you.

Great to see the working class, From the north, Wolverhampton, Dudley, Birmingham, Coventry ect refusing to be bullied by Cameron and his fear campaign.

 

[Jolemai]

Quality.

Putting your Corbyn agenda aside for a sec, why do you feel the so-called "heartlands" voted the way they did?

 

[machin05]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ere-paradoxical-but-decisive?CMP=share_btn_tw

Fear of immigration, not immigration itself...

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It really isn't. But it is what it is. So we have to make sure it works. Or at least to the best of our abilities that it works. Some knots are going to take a lot of ironing out.

 

[jd1981]

Would you say that there are a number of jobs out there that Brits wont even consider but foreign workers jump at the chance to do?

In a lot of cases yes, problem also is a lot of unemployed British workers may have been made redundant from better payed jobs or feel they're to over qualified to work on a food production line.

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

Green fields, cheaper houses, more chance of work, we will have to train our own people to do jobs instead leaving working people on the scrapheap and employing cheap immigrant labour. Less traffic and i hope higher living standards.

"The short answer to what happens next with pollution, wildlife, farming, green energy, climate change and more is we don’t know – we are in uncharted territory. But all the indications – from the “red-tape” slashing desires of the Brexiters to the judgment of environmental professionals – are that the protections for our environment will get weaker.

From the air we breathe to the food we eat to the climate we live in, how we protect and enhance the environment underpins the healthy and happy lives we all aspire to, now and for generations to come.

The Brexit vote leaves it highly uncertain which protections will remain in place and the prospect of improving them seems remote. Nigel Farage, the politician who did more than anyone to force the EU referendum, doesn’t even think climate change is a problem and wants to scrap pollution limits on power stations.

With 400,000 early deaths a year from air pollution – 40,000 in the UK – the EU saw things differently and set new legal limits in 2010. Many UK cities and towns remain above those limits today and campaigners have used EU rules to successfully sue the UK government. But UK ministers are even now fighting new EU rules to reduce early deaths. Pollution does not stop in its tracks at national borders, and 88% of environment professionals in the UK think an EU-wide policy is needed.

Earlier legal action from the EU forced the UK to clean up its sewage-strewn beaches, while many of the protections for nature and wildlife across the nation stem from EU rules."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...xit-live-europe-leave-remain-britain#comments

Green fields my arse, but back to your Janet and John book if that pleases you.

 

[Jolemai]

In a lot of cases yes, problem also is a lot of unemployed British workers may have been made redundant from better payed jobs or feel they're to over qualified to work on a food production line.

Or feel it's beneath them?

 

[jd1981]

Probably because they know foreign workers are generally more reliable, have less time off and are more willing to work overtime when asked.

And I'm being very general in that statement before I get responses!

This I agree with but judging from experience companies will employ local workers as much as they would a foreign worker just a case of who applies.

 

[Langers]

Sigh.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Would you say that there are a number of jobs out there that Brits wont even consider but foreign workers jump at the chance to do?

Lord Sainsbury will never get another penny from me. I said a long time a go, about him taking workers from eastern Europe, through job agencies. The cunt can eat shit. Of course he was one of the biggest backers of the remain campaign. He doesn"t care one iota for Human Beings, just money. He can eat hose shit now.

 

[jd1981]

Or feel it's beneath them?

Yes unfortunatley in a few small cases, my personal attitude is if I lost my job and the only thing available in the interim is low payed work I'd take it until I find something else.

 

[Sniffer]

Morgan Stanley looks to move 2,000 London staff
Posted at
13:45
BBC business reporter Joe Lynam reports...

Sources within Morgan Stanley say it has already begun the process of moving about 2,000 of its London-based investment banking staff to Dublin or Frankfurt. And it has a taskforce in place.

The jobs which would be moved from the UK would be in euro clearing but also other investment banking functions and senior management.

The American investment bank needs to avail of the passporting system which allows banks to offer financial services in all countries in the EU without having to establish a permanent base in that member state.

The president of Morgan Stanley, Colm Kelleher, told Bloomberg two days ago that Brexit would be “the most consequential thing that we’ve ever seen since the war”.

 

[ROVERT47]

Putting your Corbyn agenda aside for a sec, why do you feel the so-called "heartlands" voted the way they did?

Immigration in my opinion, now you tell me why nearly every traditional Labour supporter north of Watford has no faith in Corbyn.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But he did rugby tackle a German World Cup footballer so he must be ace.