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thehistorymakers said:
We haven't got a shortage of low skilled workers, we have many unemployed low skilled workers, who can't get a job, who are on benefits.
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Wrong. It's not that they can't get a job, it's that a lot of them don't want a low-skilled job (not all, that would be wrong to say)

The industry I work in relies heavily on low-skilled workers, and unfortunately it is very hard to find UK workers to take the roles.

If we banned low-skilled workers from migrating, it would cause issues for many sectors.

It isn't as simple as "stop the foreigners and then Brits can have the jobs." It won't and doesn't work like that.
 
Trips said:
Wrong. It's not that they can't get a job, it's that a lot of them don't want a low-skilled job (not all, that would be wrong to say)

The industry I work in relies heavily on low-skilled workers, and unfortunately it is very hard to find UK workers to take the roles.

If we banned low-skilled workers from migrating, it would cause issues for many sectors.

It isn't as simple as "stop the foreigners and then Brits can have the jobs." It won't and doesn't work like that.
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It's difficult to find low skilled UK workers because they can't afford to go to work. Rent and house prices take up a lot of the workers salaries. Neo liberals love high immigration, houses go up, food goes up, living costs in general go up. The net effect is 4 million UK workers are in poverty.
It makes me laugh when I hear about workers rights in the EU. Before we were in the EU, workers got double time Sundays, time and a half Saturdays, time and a third after 18.00pm etc, double time and a day off on bank holidays. Workers have been fleeced, since we have been in the EU, We aren't the stupid ones, we didn't believe the bullshit, we got our experience from everyday life. Really you could say the educated remain voters were the stupid ones, because they believed the lies, that the EU was great and it cared. You would think with all their superior knowledge they could have seen what was in front of their noses, but no. Now they start believing in Tony Blair, you have to laugh.

I don't blame foreign workers, I blame the Neo Liberal, EU undemocratic exploitation machine, that uses workers against workers. Floods the markets to knock down the wages, while putting up living costs, at the expense of poorer EU countries that lose all their young workers, so they have to pay of massive bankers debts, whilst not having companies or workers to try to dig themselves out of the mess. The EU is a failure, that would keep exploiting the poor, thank god it was the British working class, who stood and were counted. They didn't believe the lies, the government propaganda leaflet, the IMF, the bank of England, Obama, Tony Blair, Cameron or anyone else, they knew what the EU was doing and that was exploitation and greed, with our sweat.
 
thehistorymakers said:
It's difficult to find low skilled UK workers because they can't afford to go to work. Rent and house prices take up a lot of the workers salaries. Neo liberals love high immigration, houses go up, food goes up, living costs in general go up. The net effect is 4 million UK workers are in poverty.
It makes me laugh when I hear about workers rights in the EU. Before we were in the EU, workers got double time Sundays, time and a half Saturdays, time and a third after 18.00pm etc, double time and a day off on bank holidays. Workers have been fleeced, since we have been in the EU, We aren't the stupid ones, we didn't believe the bullshit, we got our experience from everyday life. Really you could say the educated remain voters were the stupid ones, because they believed the lies, that the EU was great and it cared. You would think with all their superior knowledge they could have seen what was in front of their noses, but no. Now they start believing in Tony Blair, you have to laugh.

I don't blame foreign workers, I blame the Neo Liberal, EU undemocratic exploitation machine, that uses workers against workers. Floods the markets to knock down the wages, while putting up living costs, at the expense of poorer EU countries that lose all their young workers, so they have to pay of massive bankers debts, whilst not having companies or workers to try to dig themselves out of the mess. The EU is a failure, that would keep exploiting the poor, thank god it was the British working class, who stood and were counted. They didn't believe the lies, the government propaganda leaflet, the IMF, the bank of England, Obama, Tony Blair, Cameron or anyone else, they knew what the EU was doing and that was exploitation and greed, with our sweat.
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:yikes:

Wow! That is something else.

I'm off to the pub in a second to watch the game so will look at this post again this evening and try to decipher it then.
 
I will be not be making anymore posts on this forum. I had a great time.
I made some good friends and met some genuinely decent good people.
Take care.

I will carry on with the prediction league and in the football section about Wolves.


Take care, thehistorymakers.
 
thehistorymakers said:
It's difficult to find low skilled UK workers because they can't afford to go to work. Rent and house prices take up a lot of the workers salaries. Neo liberals love high immigration, houses go up, food goes up, living costs in general go up. The net effect is 4 million UK workers are in poverty.
It makes me laugh when I hear about workers rights in the EU. Before we were in the EU, workers got double time Sundays, time and a half Saturdays, time and a third after 18.00pm etc, double time and a day off on bank holidays. Workers have been fleeced, since we have been in the EU, We aren't the stupid ones, we didn't believe the bullshit, we got our experience from everyday life. Really you could say the educated remain voters were the stupid ones, because they believed the lies, that the EU was great and it cared. You would think with all their superior knowledge they could have seen what was in front of their noses, but no. Now they start believing in Tony Blair, you have to laugh.

I don't blame foreign workers, I blame the Neo Liberal, EU undemocratic exploitation machine, that uses workers against workers. Floods the markets to knock down the wages, while putting up living costs, at the expense of poorer EU countries that lose all their young workers, so they have to pay of massive bankers debts, whilst not having companies or workers to try to dig themselves out of the mess. The EU is a failure, that would keep exploiting the poor, thank god it was the British working class, who stood and were counted. They didn't believe the lies, the government propaganda leaflet, the IMF, the bank of England, Obama, Tony Blair, Cameron or anyone else, they knew what the EU was doing and that was exploitation and greed, with our sweat.
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Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.
 
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thehistorymakers said:
I will be not be making anymore posts on this forum. I had a great time.
I made some good friends and met some genuinely decent good people.
Take care.

I will carry on with the prediction league and in the football section about Wolves.


Take care, thehistorymakers.
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Best news I've heard all day,we can go in a new direction now,not just round and round in circles,if you're still watching THM,shut the door on the way out,bye.
 
Keef said:
Best news I've heard all day,we can go in a new direction now,not just round and round in circles,if you're still watching THM,shut the door on the way out,bye.
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Onward and upward to brexit and beyond.
Turn off the TV and rise up against Blair! :)
 
thehistorymakers said:
It's difficult to find low skilled UK workers because they can't afford to go to work. Rent and house prices take up a lot of the workers salaries. Neo liberals love high immigration, houses go up, food goes up, living costs in general go up. The net effect is 4 million UK workers are in poverty.
It makes me laugh when I hear about workers rights in the EU. Before we were in the EU, workers got double time Sundays, time and a half Saturdays, time and a third after 18.00pm etc, double time and a day off on bank holidays. Workers have been fleeced, since we have been in the EU, We aren't the stupid ones, we didn't believe the bullshit, we got our experience from everyday life. Really you could say the educated remain voters were the stupid ones, because they believed the lies, that the EU was great and it cared. You would think with all their superior knowledge they could have seen what was in front of their noses, but no. Now they start believing in Tony Blair, you have to laugh.

I don't blame foreign workers, I blame the Neo Liberal, EU undemocratic exploitation machine, that uses workers against workers. Floods the markets to knock down the wages, while putting up living costs, at the expense of poorer EU countries that lose all their young workers, so they have to pay of massive bankers debts, whilst not having companies or workers to try to dig themselves out of the mess. The EU is a failure, that would keep exploiting the poor, thank god it was the British working class, who stood and were counted. They didn't believe the lies, the government propaganda leaflet, the IMF, the bank of England, Obama, Tony Blair, Cameron or anyone else, they knew what the EU was doing and that was exploitation and greed, with our sweat.
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Oh no, I think I might be in trouble now because I agree with all of this. I do think it does get a bit too abusive on this thread though. I've disagreed with some on here and it's been fine. But some posters make it a bit personal ? We are all just giving opinions. None of us can know exactly how things will pan out after we leave. But it's a sad day when a fellow Wolves supporter feels inclined to stop posting on any subject on this forum, whatever opinions we hold. As I previously said, does it really matter that much ?
 
And yet there are countries within the EU who don't have these problems, if genuine problems they are. Which would lead me to believe that the cause is something other than EU membership, such as national government policies.
 
ProgWolf said:
Oh no, I think I might be in trouble now because I agree with all of this. I do think it does get a bit too abusive on this thread though. I've disagreed with some on here and it's been fine. But some posters make it a bit personal ? We are all just giving opinions. None of us can know exactly how things will pan out after we leave. But it's a sad day when a fellow Wolves supporter feels inclined to stop posting on any subject on this forum, whatever opinions we hold. As I previously said, does it really matter that much ?
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I rarely post on political threads now. My views are known, people don't agree and that's that. To many other things to do rather than argue the toss with fellow fans. I prefer to agree to differ and walk away.
 
I think you have done that very well cyber. you debate excellently. so don't step out of it.
 
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