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Paddingtonwolf said:
If only it were that simplistic. And there wasn't a European Central Bank to prop the currency up.
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You to are being simplistic. The fate if the EU is very linked to the euro because of weak member states economies in the euro zone. Greece Italy Portugal Spain and Ireland do not help its cause currently and their current high unemployment does not bode well for at least a few years by which time we will have left, France will have elected a president Holland will have decided on a referendum and Trump will have done a trade deal with us. From where I look the EU is teetering
 
thehistorymakers said:
Escuse me, you said the UK is now a charity case. I pointed out, if we are, it has happened while we were in the EU.
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It also started not long after man first stepped on the moon but before Channel 4 launched. There have been quite a few things that have happened in the period of time we have been part of the Common Market and its successors so if your only argument is "time frame" it doesn't have much substance to it.

National debt - mostly due to government policy and international events...which are linked. The UK/US decision to deregulate anything that moved in the 80s, including financial services, has been the single biggest contributor to our national debt since the second world war. It would have happened whether we were in the EU or not.

As for poverty wages - this has been looked at time and time again. Other than a minimal impact at the lower end of the wage scale caused by immigration - how else has being in the EU caused that problem?
 
I'm still struggling to comprehend how a trade deal with Trump's, "America first, America first" regime can be of benefit to the UK's exporters. I bet Europe is shitting itself about that one!
 
The Saturday Boy said:
It also started not long after man first stepped on the moon but before Channel 4 launched. There have been quite a few things that have happened in the period of time we have been part of the Common Market and its successors so if your only argument is "time frame" it doesn't have much substance to it.

National debt - mostly due to government policy and international events...which are linked. The UK/US decision to deregulate anything that moved in the 80s, including financial services, has been the single biggest contributor to our national debt since the second world war. It would have happened whether we were in the EU or not.

As for poverty wages - this has been looked at time and time again. Other than a minimal impact at the lower end of the wage scale caused by immigration - how else has being in the EU caused that problem?
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The point is, you said we are now an official charity case, if we are, it is from our time in the EU, not since we left.
 
My mom lost her job when I was at primary school, good job I got out of that place so we could all get our lives back on track.
 
So the Brexit Bill runs to 130 words with just 5 days to debate it. Why do I feel the appeal to the Supreme Court was made purely to take up time thereby allowing the May to force it through Parliament in a hurry thereby preventing any proper debate on the matter?
 
A white paper of 130 words? I've had white paper wipe off my arse with more words than that on it.
 
After parliament agreed to give the people of the UK the choice to leave or stay in the EU, by a 6 to 1 majority, do you accept that we should respect the will of the UK electorate who voted to leave the EU,? Yes or no.


Easy decision for someone who respects democracy!
 
thehistorymakers said:
After parliament agreed to give the people of the UK the choice to leave or stay in the EU
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No they didnt. They asked for their opinion.

If I say to my kids ' Would you prefer Sausages or burgers for tea?' I can find out their preference. But having got their answer I can quite legitimately give them chicken nuggets.
 
Visage said:
No they didnt. They asked for their opinion.

If I say to my kids ' Would you prefer Sausages or burgers for tea?' I can find out their preference. But having got their answer I can quite legitimately give them chicken nuggets.
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Make sure you give them dogshit dip as well*. As that is clearly exactly what they asked for and you know this for sure.





*Don't really do this
 
thehistorymakers said:
After parliament agreed to give the people of the UK the choice to leave or stay in the EU, by a 6 to 1 majority, do you accept that we should respect the will of the UK electorate who voted to leave the EU,? Yes or no.


Easy decision for someone who respects democracy!
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37% of the UK electorate to be correct (you like your stats)
 
What if you do believe in democracy as a concept but wholeheartedly don't believe in direct democracy, being as it's traditionally the hallmark of tinpot dictators and fascists and you have even less faith in the population than you do in politicians?
 
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