REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Doctor Doog]

There's a couple of things worth pointing out on the Nissan deal. Firstly, when a new model or significant upgrade comes out they put the build out to tender across all of their plants. This will happen every three or four years, so there's no guarantee Nissan will still be here in a few years' time, unless the government continue to fund them. Conversely, if the deal is like others I am aware of in my own line of work, what they will have offered is to match any funding that Nissan are entitled to from the EU, but will stop at the point that we leave. So the total amount involved is probably fairly small, given that we won't leave for a while.

 

[Jolemai]

Legal challenge against Brexit in Northern Ireland has been rejected.

 

[Jolemai]

Seems like Unilever have more leverage with Morrison's than Tesco as the former raise the price of Marmite by 12.5%.

Morrisons said it did its best to avoid putting prices up. It added: "More often than not we have been reducing prices and more than 3,000 products are currently cheaper in our supermarkets than they were last year."

What rubbish.

 

[Sniffer]

Supermarket prices are like fairground rides being up one week down the next with a promotion.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

I find this thread fascinating from many points, but most of all, the fact there are people arguing to infinite detail about things that are not yet fact, that may never be fact, and that no one, including May, Merkel, Hollande et al have even the remotest clue about what they will or won't be.

But you guys continue to make your absolutely , dogs bollocks, bono facto correct points.

Are you all nuts? please talk about what you think might happen, what you believe might happen, or what you hope might happen, but if there is anyone on this thread who is exactly sure what will happen with the Brexit we haven't even started yet, please speak now, throw up his credentials and i will happilly listen.

We voted (you voted i couldn't) but things don't even begin until March, they will take, as we all know, two years to even look like bearing fruition re a deal, so if you don't know, shut the fuck up! if it's just your opinion/idea. say so, but how so many people can be so sure they are right about something that has no precedent, and has not even begun????

Have a thought for those of us who live abroad, have done so for many years, and actually have something real to fear, i.e our current way of life.

If you know what you are talking about , tell me!!! if not, well....just shut the fuck up.

 

[Jolemai]

Supermarket prices are like fairground rides being up one week down the next with a promotion.

So you think this is just Morrison's playing the game rather than Unilever successfully doing to Morrison's than what it failed to do with Tesco?

 

[Jolemai]

Apple Macs up by £500 thanks to Brexit. Meanwhile, MS Office has gone up 22% for business following the currency slump.

 

[Tony Towner]

So you think this is just Morrison's playing the game rather than Unilever successfully doing to Morrison's than what it failed to do with Tesco?

Unilever didn't fail with Tesco. Tesco cannot do without them and vice versa. There will have been a compromise but it will have been a lot closer to the 10% than most people think. Unilever's mistake was going for a flat percentage across all of their Brands when each individual product they make is affected in different ways and produced in different countries.

The pro Brexit press chose Marmite to have a pop at as it is produced in the UK from UK byproducts of the brewing industry so isn't impacted by currency deflation. I can guarantee you that prices will rise next year across all none UK produced products by 10%+ in the retail sector.

If you are purchasing from China you can genuinely justify 20%, based an a 3% increase in freight and a 17% movement in currency...although you would have to have a very strong Brand / product to get that through the retailer or the consumer

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

I just cannot believe that anyone can post a serious Brexit post about Marmite????

Are you nuts? or what.

I simply cannot see the economy of Britain being tied to, or dragged down by fucking Marmite, but if you can , please enlighten me.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I find this thread fascinating from many points, but most of all, the fact there are people arguing to infinite detail about things that are not yet fact, that may never be fact, and that no one, including May, Merkel, Hollande et al have even the remotest clue about what they will or won't be.

But you guys continue to make your absolutely , dogs bollocks, bono facto correct points.

Are you all nuts? please talk about what you think might happen, what you believe might happen, or what you hope might happen, but if there is anyone on this thread who is exactly sure what will happen with the Brexit we haven't even started yet, please speak now, throw up his credentials and i will happilly listen.

We voted (you voted i couldn't) but things don't even begin until March, they will take, as we all know, two years to even look like bearing fruition re a deal, so if you don't know, shut the fuck up! if it's just your opinion/idea. say so, but how so many people can be so sure they are right about something that has no precedent, and has not even begun????

Have a thought for those of us who live abroad, have done so for many years, and actually have something real to fear, i.e our current way of life.

If you know what you are talking about , tell me!!! if not, well....just shut the fuck up.

Hear hear or here here.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I can get it if they bought in dollar, but as the pound v euro is similar to what it was in 2013 then all Unilever are doing is profiteering off the situation.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I tend to agree. Unilever don't want their margin crushed. If anything they want it to be increased to protect themselves against future currency moves. Tesco haven't passed the increase on to customers. Morrisons have.

As Marmite is like eating cowpats from the devil's own satanic herd, I can live with that increase, but there are a whole bunch of other unilever brands out there that I wouldn't want to increase.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

Surely Tesco, Unilever and everyone else, simply have to say strong in Britain and watch the pound rise and seriously fuck the Euro, which frankly wouldn't take much effort.

Leaving the UK would obviously affect the poundtin a bad way , but staying put has to have the opposite affect, N'es ce pas?

 

[Tony Towner]

The Pound would be absolutely fucked if we left the UK

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

The Pound would be absolutely fucked if we left the UK ��

I know my typing is shit at the best of the times, but should i send you my old glasses.

I didn't write if we left the Uk, i wrote "leaving the UK" relating to my previous comment about Tesco, Unilever et al.

want to send me an address?


Reading and pausing for though lessons available via Skype, ( in Euros sadly)

 

[Tony Towner]

...can't be arsed

 

[Penk Wolf]

I know my typing is shit at the best of the times, but should i send you my old glasses.

I didn't write if we left the Uk, i wrote "leaving the UK" relating to my previous comment about Tesco, Unilever et al.

want to send me an address?


Reading and pausing for though lessons available via Skype, ( in Euros sadly)

Leaving the UK or the EU? I think Tony's post may have gone over your head a tad.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Tony Blair thinks we should have a second referendum. Why?

 

[Tredman]

Because there was no clarity on what brexit would entail. Should we let the government alone decide on any deal?

Blair's point was the deal may be too soft or too hard, so we should vote on whether the deal is correct.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Tony Blair thinks we should have a second referendum. Why?

Because he is a cunt!!! He is used to doing, what is good for him and not listening to the will of the people. He thought he knew best, in the Iraq war also.
He is openly inviting the stockmarkerts to attack the British pound, the multinationals to put up the prices of food, so we suffer enough, to change our mind. He doesn"t care about people or democracy. How any socialist or left leaning voter could listen to this war crminanal, responsible for the deaths of thousands of people, is beyond me.
He doesn't like the democratic result and if he wasn't a politician, I am sure he would be visiting a psychiatrist, because of a personality disorder.