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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

thehistorymakers said:
Because he is a $#@!!!! He is used to doing, what is good for him and not listening to the will of the people. He thought he knew best, in the Iraq war also.
He is openly inviting the stockmarkerts to attack the British pound, the multinationals to put up the prices of food, so we suffer enough, to change our mind. He doesn"t care about people or democracy. How any socialist or left leaning voter could listen to this war crminanal, responsible for the deaths of thousands of people, is beyond me.
He doesn't like the democratic result and if he wasn't a politician, I am sure would be seing a psychiatrist, because of a personality disorder.
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Even though I agree with a lot of this, you make me not want to. What a gift you have.

What is it with this place that it has recently become acceptable to use mental health as a means of embellishing a point of view?
 
The Saturday Boy said:
Even though I agree with a lot of this, you make me not want to. What a gift you have.

What is it with this place that it has recently become acceptable to use mental health as a means of embellishing a point of view?
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I wasn't and will never knock people, who suffer with mental illness. In no way was my post meant to have a go at people who suffer from mental illness and I am sorry if it came across like that.
 
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Penk Wolf said:
Leaving the UK or the EU? I think Tony's post may have gone over your head a tad.
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Oh no it didn't!
My comment "leaving the UK" was related to Unilever and all the other big boys who supposedly might leave the UK because of Brexit, i never said if we leave the UK, I was referring to big companies who some are insinutaing might leave the UK.

Fuck me, i's not rocket science!
 
How the hell can we have a second referendum based on the pro's and cons of Brexit not being clear in the first one.

We won't have a clue what they are for the best part of two years. So do we have a second referendum based on wether we like the terms finally offered by the EU, when they are finally offered?

Ha ha, I can see our European counterparts standing for that.
 
The key there vis is how long the eu takes to negotiate agreements, compared to how long non eu agreements take. The eu is a mess, with too many differing interests - it's not really surprising their agreements take so long or don't happen at all.

Negotiating with Australia or china or Canada for us is far far easier than it is for them.
 
Might be easier, but completely pointless compared to negotiating with EU. There are more people in Poland alone in the whole of Canada. Our trade with Canada and Australia etc is miniscule compared with the EU.

Free trade with China is a massive kettle of fish, it would be probably be massively dangerous to the UK economy.
 
And? It's market size for British goods which matters and the EU is the world's biggest market.

Still I'm sure the Tory UKIP obsession with the old white commonwealth will pay off..
 
Premier Quality said:
The key there vis is how long the eu takes to negotiate agreements, compared to how long non eu agreements take. The eu is a mess, with too many differing interests - it's not really surprising their agreements take so long or don't happen at all.

Negotiating with Australia or china or Canada for us is far far easier than it is for them.
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The problem is that when the EU negotiates with China it does so from a position of strength - EU GDP is about 50% higher than Chinas. The UK, on the other hand, is about 20% of China, GDP wise.

Sure, we'll probably get a decent deal with Aus or Can., but we would have anyway. Its hard to see how we would improve on the status quo negotiation on our own.
 
Leave the EU to negotiate a trade deal that we would already have access to as an EU member?
 
The eu don't have trade deals with Australia or china. Or the USA. Or Brazil for that matter.
 
Premier Quality said:
The eu don't have trade deals with Australia or china. Or the USA. Or Brazil for that matter.
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That's the point. The idea that we'd get a better deal on our own than one negotiated as part of a much larger bloc is absurd.
 
Whys it absurd? The eu negotiations have difficulties added to by each of the different states who want different things protected - that alone makes it much much harder to negotiate any deals. One country negotiating with one country is far more straight forward than doing it with 27, each of which have a veto over the whole deal.
 
Because you need to bring something to the table for the country that you are negotiating with.
 
Premier Quality said:
Like the sixth biggest economy in the world for example?
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This is whats absurd. You're citing the fact that the UK is the 6th biggest economy as an important point, and then denying that the *2nd* biggest economy (8x larger than the UK...) wouldnt get a better deal.
 
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