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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

You know, I had no idea Jeremy Clarkson was on the Remain side. He's pretty much the prototype Leave voter. Astounding.

Celebrity endorsements are nonsense though, I've been able to make my mind up for myself perfectly capably so far without the help of Eddie Izzard or Michael Caine.

You know what would sate me at this stage? If there were a commitment to protecting the City as the financial centre of Europe (like it or loathe it, we fucking need it), a statement that we would seek to remain in the single market at all costs (as detailed in the Tories' own manifesto from a whole 18 months ago) and an opt in for all Remain voters to retain an EU passport and all the rights that go with it. After that, carry on with your scheme to turn the clock back to 1958, knock yourselves out.
 
arklowolf said:
perhaps if the remain camp looked at some of the people they wheeled out before the vote, I'm thinking of the Izzard's, Cumberbatch's, geldoff's, Clarkson's, and the like they might have a better idea of part of the reason why they lost the vote.
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Im genuinely confused as to why the people you're cited expressing an opinion would cause people to vote contrary to it.
 
Throwing out a point and then immediately folding when asked to justify it wont win many arguments.
 
Visage said:
Throwing out a point and then immediately folding when asked to justify it wont win many arguments.
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That's true.
I'd like to know why people think Charles Dyson for example is a dickhead. Once I've got the answer to that I might consider responding.
With why I think Geldof for example is.
Then again what's the point really?
No ones going to win an argument. We're all pretty entrenched in our views whatever side we are on. Remain lost the vote, time will tell who was right and who was wrong, let's give it five years and then we might have a bit of an idea. I thought war in Iraq was right at the time, now in hindsight I believe it was wrong and we were all lied to.
I think I will stop posting on this subject (should please a few anyway) :)
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
You know, I had no idea Jeremy Clarkson was on the Remain side. He's pretty much the prototype Leave voter. Astounding.

Celebrity endorsements are nonsense though, I've been able to make my mind up for myself perfectly capably so far without the help of Eddie Izzard or Michael Caine.

You know what would sate me at this stage? If there were a commitment to protecting the City as the financial centre of Europe (like it or loathe it, we fucking need it), a statement that we would seek to remain in the single market at all costs (as detailed in the Tories' own manifesto from a whole 18 months ago) and an opt in for all Remain voters to retain an EU passport and all the rights that go with it. After that, carry on with your scheme to turn the clock back to 1958, knock yourselves out.
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By the way, if any Brexiteers find any of this unreasonable, feel free to chime in. Though it would be a sad state of affairs if someone fundamentally opposed to them were coming up with their own answers to their own problem. Faintly embarrassing really.
 
Just been looking at JCB's accounts, didn't realise the parent company was in the Netherlands, Transmissions & Engineering Services Netherlands BV. Makes you wonder why Anthony was supporting Brexit if his parent company is the Netherlands?
 
In 2000 the European Commission had fined JCB €39.6m for antitrust breaches. The fine centred on JCB’s strategy of preventing consumers in one EU country buying its machinery more cheaply from an authorised dealer in another EU country — an approach that the then trade commissioner Mario Monti called a “shocking” breach of the single market.
 
leedswolf said:
In 2000 the European Commission had fined JCB €39.6m for antitrust breaches. The fine centred on JCB’s strategy of preventing consumers in one EU country buying its machinery more cheaply from an authorised dealer in another EU country — an approach that the then trade commissioner Mario Monti called a “shocking” breach of the single market.
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So basically they want out so they can exploit?
 
Sir James Dyson said in 2000 that it would be suicidal if UK didn't join the Euro ................
 
Oh and JCB has left the CBI because of the CBI's anti-Brexit stance.
 
As a Scotland-based aside - if Sturgeon could organise a referendum to occur before the Article 50 button is pressed next spring some time and got the result she desires and expects, presumably Scotland actually wouldn't go to the back of the queue for entry. It would be a country already in the EU voting to stay in.

(Obviously, this doesn't surmount the other obstacles, not least of which is the currency issue. I am just asking how that might work on the one point above)
 
No, the eu wouldn't let them stay in as they don't want to encourage any parts of Spain to split off too.
 
Wishful thinking that I think, I think they would be keener to keep countries in.
 
Panic over Marmite & Pot Noodle lovers. Issue sorted.

Should have seen a bumper 24 hours of panic buys of items from Tesco before the price rise. Smart move from the Supermarket
 
Tesco leaked it as a shot across the bows for other Suppliers who will all have already or are about to go in with price increases. It wasn't ever going to last more than 24hr hours, Unilever have too many Brands Tesco need and Tesco are Unilever's largest UK customer
 
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