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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

thehistorymakers said:
Blame stock markets and the same investment banks, that backed remain. They are attacking the pound, to try to influence a softer Brexit. They tried their hardest to influence the democratic referendum result and failed, so know they are trying to influence political decision.
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No they're not. They're protecting their own interests, which will likely be contrary to the interests of their resources, such as their staff.

thehistorymakers said:
It is like the remain camp are happy if there is bad news. It doesn't suprise me how the socialist elite show their true colours. Stock markets, multinationals, investment banks, anything but backing the workers, their own country and the will of a democratic vote, that they lost.
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Where has this delusional bullshit come from? I don't see how any of the "remainers" (as you like to split it into "sides"/us & them style even though it has very clearly been explained to you that this isn't the framework of the debate) has come across as happy from any of the posts over the past couple of days. Can you show me one example of a remainer being happy at the bad news?
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
I thought this was the will of the people? In which case I'll happily apportion a fair section of the blame towards the people who've voted for us all to lose rights that many of us held very dear (which is a point you don't seem to understand at all).
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I do understand it very well don't patronize me. Please high light exactly what you have actually lost. I am having a bit of a struggle seeing whast rights have gone so far
 
thehistorymakers said:
Blame stock markets and the same investment banks, that backed remain. They are attacking the pound, to try to influence a softer Brexit. They tried their hardest to influence the democratic referendum result and failed, so know they are trying to influence political decision. It is like the remain camp are happy if there is bad news. It doesn't suprise me how the socialist elite show their true colours. Stock markets, multinationals, investment banks, anything but backing the workers, their own country and the will of a democratic vote, that they lost.
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That is absolutely fucking hilarious from first word to last. They aren't attacking the pound. Utterly moronic. The pound is now happily drifting to its correct position in the world order courtesy of the abject economic stupidity of Brexit.
 
Cyber-_-man said:
I do understand it very well don't patronize me. Please high light exactly what you have actually lost. I am having a bit of a struggle seeing whast rights have gone so far
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Everything connected to EU citizenship which we are all going to lose by March 2019. We know we're going to lose all that because there's now a timescale for us invoking Article 50. We have no chance of retaining those rights in their current state.

As I said yesterday (which you ignored), you might not find any of that terribly important but I certainly do and so do plenty of others. They were rights I was born with, they were rights I had indefinitely until this idiotic referendum reared its head, now they're only mine for a matter of ever dwindling months. Gone forever. Nothing I can do about it, not a state of affairs I would ever have volunteered for. Just because you think it's ok for us to do without them I don't see why the rest of us should shrug our shoulders and say "ah well, that's life".
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Everything connected to EU citizenship which we are all going to lose by March 2019. We know we're going to lose all that because there's now a timescale for us invoking Article 50. We have no chance of retaining those rights in their current state.

As I said yesterday (which you ignored), you might not find any of that terribly important but I certainly do and so do plenty of others. They were rights I was born with, they were rights I had indefinitely until this idiotic referendum reared its head, now they're only mine for a matter of ever dwindling months. Gone forever. Nothing I can do about it, not a state of affairs I would ever have volunteered for. Just because you think it's ok for us to do without them I don't see why the rest of us should shrug our shoulders and say "ah well, that's life".
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Don't worry DW those not living in the UK in 5 years will try to still tell us everything is OK in the UK. The utter stupidity of some would be hilarious if it wasn't affecting everybody's way of life. Nothing but a bunch of selfish cunts.
 
Cyber-_-man said:
However I am convinced at the end of it this country will be stronger and better off for leaving the current iteration of the EU. Its a shocker and has little resemblance to what we joined
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In the meantime, I will have lost my EU citizenship. So will my kids. Something I valued as pretty fucking important was taken off me because a percentage of the population decided to vote in favour of doing so. I'd say a majority of those people did it because they don't like how many immigrants we have in our country and want a return to the rose tinted good old days (I am aware that not everybody voted out because of this before you mention it). People can call me bitter but I'm not, I'm fucking angry. I'm still as angry now as I was the day the result was announced.
 
Still no-one can say how exactly anyone's lives will be improved by Brexit. Nebulous concepts like "taking back control" don't mean anything. Can anyone name just one thing that will improve life for the majority of people in the UK after we have left? Even easier - name something that will improve for anyone.

I get that people don't like immigration. I get that people don't like big supra-national organisations that operate in unaccountable ways. I can understand, if not agree with, some of the reasons behind the leave vote.

And I asked all this before the referendum and got no response. What tangible benefits will UK citizens see once Brexit is over and done with? You say we should wait and see - what is it we're waiting for? Because at the moment, like DW, all I can see is things being lost.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
That is absolutely $#@!ing hilarious from first word to last. They aren't attacking the pound. Utterly moronic. The pound is now happily drifting to its correct position in the world order courtesy of the abject economic stupidity of Brexit.
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The hilarious part is that you don't think they are attacking the pound, to try and influence a softer Brexit. The sad part, is the same parasites helped fund the remain campaign.
 
So Long Architect said:
Still no-one can say how exactly anyone's lives will be improved by Brexit. Nebulous concepts like "taking back control" don't mean anything. Can anyone name just one thing that will improve life for the majority of people in the UK after we have left? Even easier - name something that will improve for anyone.

I get that people don't like immigration. I get that people don't like big supra-national organisations that operate in unaccountable ways. I can understand, if not agree with, some of the reason behind the leave vote.

And I asked all this before the referendum and got no response. What tangible benefits will UK citizens see once Brexit is over and done with? You say we should wait and see - what is it we're waiting for? Because at the moment, like DW, all I can see is things being lost.
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You were blind to the suffering of the majority of the British popultion. Now you are worried that suffering might be knocking on your door. 17 million people had had enough. Nobody listened to them and now they have spoken. Accept the democratic result and grow up.
 
As you have no possible concept of micro- or macro-economics you just stick to your small-minded and amusingly ill-informed opinion.

They are NOT attacking the pound. They are taking positions to make money from the weakness of the pound, which has been caused by the utterly stupid idea that the EU will somehow allow us to have free trade with them and also lock up the borders.

Seriously, when the only prospective world leader thinking what you are planning is a great idea is the gimp planning a big wall to keep the spicks out, you probably need a re-think.
 
thehistorymakers said:
You were blind to the suffering of the majority of the British popultion. Now you are worried that suffering might be knocking on your door. 17 million people had had enough. Nobody listened to them and now they have spoken. Accept the democratic result and grow up.
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Never in a million years.
 
thehistorymakers said:
You were blind to the suffering of the majority of the British popultion. Now you are worried that suffering might be knocking on your door. 17 million people had had enough. Nobody listened to them and now they have spoken. Accept the democratic result and grow up.
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Am I "worried that suffering might be knocking on my door"? It's a fun turn of phrase but pretty meaningless. Any benefits for anyone? Even for you in your Spanish olive garden?
 
thehistorymakers said:
The hilarious part is that you don't think they are attacking the pound, to try and influence a softer Brexit. The sad part, is the same parasites helped fund the remain campaign.
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I'm pretty sure that it was made quite clear that leaving the EU would be, in the short to meduim term at least, bad for the pound.

Weren't you listening?
 
I'm not sure I want to live in a world where we aren't allowed to talk about Brexit, if we're unhappy about it, as I keep reading. That we should just suck it up and nod along, regardless of our opinion of it. Allied to the existing and planned treatment of immigrants (y'know, actual living fucking PEOPLE), it actually makes me really embarrassed of the country we've become, and extremely scared about what kind of social climate I'm bringing my daughter into. A world where from the Prime Minister down, we're being told or taught to treat people differently depending on where the accident of birth occurred for them? Fuck that shit. Where you're told that if your opinion or belief isn't in the majority you should just shut the fuck up? Fuck. That. Shit.
 
lemonjelly said:
So because there was a political ideaology you didn't like in a country you didn't live in, you feel it is ok to change the politics in that country?

Can't blame me mate, I wasn't allowed to vote.
Seemed to be fine for Blair in Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc etc.
BTW.

There is no way on this planet it will end globalisation either. Indeed a main premise of the out campaign was increased globalisation.
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