REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Johnny75]

The Holocaust never appeared in any election manifesto.

Have you been on Godwin's Ale this afternoon?

 

[SLA]

You could of course make the same case for jeremy Corbyn couldn't you? Doesn't like people in his party that think differently and has teams of people acting 'independently' to put pressure on using violence in some cases. Oh and you could always just sack your political opponents in your own party because, y'know, they have a different opinion and champion other MP's in the party.

Of course the Tories, as unpalatable as they are at the moment aren't anywhere near the Nazi party and nor is Labour, but you carry on.

The massive difference being, of course, that the Tories are in power. The mess that is the Labour party is a complete irrelevance to what is going on and basically only of use to people like Frank who like to use them to derail any discussion about the direction of his favoured party.

 

[visage]

Oh, OK, fair enough. We'll ignore the disturbing historical echos because Johnny from The Internet says its all going to be fine.

 

[Johnny75]

The massive difference being, of course, that the Tories are in power. The mess that is the Labour party is a complete irrelevance to what is going on and basically only of use to people like Frank who like to use them to derail any discussion about the direction of his favoured party.

Well quite, nevertheless neither party is close to the Nazi regime are they?

It's all hyperbole and nonsense from some people and they're just as bad as the idiots who think Brexit is great. Brexit is clearly shit but the world isn't going to implode because of it and nor is the UK going to turn into Nazi Germany.

 

[SLA]

Isn't the point that a party whose language and policies can be so easily compared to the Nazi's are almost certainly on the wrong track and hardly shows the folk who support them in the best of lights?

 

[nimrod]

The FTSE is at a high because many of the Companies have an overall value in US$. Therefore if the value of the pound falls, the share price has to rise to compensate.

or the £uk denominated asset has simply become cheaper for any foreign investor, hence demand & price goes up

 

[Johnny75]

Isn't the point that a party whose language and policies can be so easily compared to the Nazi's are almost certainly on the wrong track and hardly shows the folk who support them in the best of lights?

The policies aren't really comparable to the Nazi's though are they? They may be very right wing and unpalatable to all (and I would hope all of us on the board barring the usual suspects think it is) but the few but comparing the rhetoric to that abhorrent regime is poor from even the most staunch socialist/ communist.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

or the £uk denominated asset has simply become cheaper for any foreign investor, hence demand & price goes up

Some of the biggest FTSE Companies are the oil giants (always valued in $us) or the big mining conglomerates (valued in $us as the rand is a shite currency). BP hasn't fallen in value here, but the pound has, so BPs share price rises to compensate.

 

[visage]

A bit of Volksgemeinschaft will make everything peachy.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Liebensraum could be key...

 

[nimrod]

Some of the biggest FTSE Companies are the oil giants (always valued in $us) or the big mining conglomerates (valued in $us as the rand is a $#@!e currency). BP hasn't fallen in value here, but the pound has, so BPs share price rises to compensate.

plus ftse multinationals will have many parts of their business outside the U.K. and so will be less impacted by any perceived detrimental impacts of brexit than, say, the U.K. itself. the ftse is a poor gauge nevermind the relevant point Alan made. it's not even a good way of valuing a company to be honest particularly when many brokers recommending buys or sells don't even understand company accounts.

 

[arklowolf]

For me, in addition to the above, this, and ultimately camerons legacy will be an extremely negative impact on public political debate. What we have seen for almost a year now is a political debate that has descended gradually into bigotry. It has legitimised people like farage and his followers to put up vile posters, behave xenophobically, and generalise and stereotype in phenomenally vile ways.

The public has seen this behaviour, and adopted it themselves. It has legitimised them to publicly start announcing they have got their country back, and we can send em all back home. And that is a total disgrace.

And it is getting worse. Look at some of the conservative conference this past week. Name and shame companies with non-british workers? $#@!! Why not make them wear yellow armbands for christs sake.

I am becoming ashamed of what people put forward as political debate nowadays.

Careful. You're next.

 

[arklowolf]

That was the spike downwards this morning, it did bump back up. We have been on a massive downward trend all week, mostly due to the fascist rhetoric and pie in the sky talking coming out of Birmingham:

Germany boomed under fascism.

 

[Alan]

Germany boomed under fascism.

The government, not the citizens.

 

[arklowolf]

I think that has particularly irked me as well Dan. My kids will always have a harder time now than I have because of a bunch of narrow minded idiots and that's a $#@!ty thing to happen. I pointed this out to a friend of mine who voted out and he said it was rubbish and he genuinely believes that the kids (his are similar ages to mine) are better off out! It's bizarre thinking.

This particular friend highlighted a problem I have with many that have voted out, in that, they have never traded with Europe and only ever leave to go to England-on-Sea. Not even a City break or work call with a European. It stinks of Little Englander syndrome.

Your kids will have a hard time? Try living in the eu with your kids. Ireland's fucked, Spain's fucked. Greece is fucked. Greedy bastardy buying everything up and feathering their own nests. Swanning around in Brussels. Bastards. fuck the eu.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The UK within the EU was about as fucked as Mother Theresa

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Your kids will have a hard time? Try living in the eu with your kids. Ireland's $#@!ed, Spain's $#@!ed. Greece is $#@!ed. Greedy bastardy buying everything up and feathering their own nests. Swanning around in Brussels. Bastards. $#@! the eu.

The EU is on the way out. Britain has broken it. Like the titanic it will list slowly before sinking. It was a Leviathan that oversold and under delivered. All this boo hooing from the centre left is pointless. Had your chance and blew it. Had your chance to vote for PR and blew it. Had your chance to vote a decent Labour leader twice and blew it and as a result 34% of the vote gets you a Tory majority. I won't vote ukip any more as it has done its job but where do I vote now. Politics in the UK is in a shocking state. You get the government you deserve. Suck it up cupcakes.

 

[Nando]

Stick your patronising shite up your arse. Christ.

 

[Alan]

Those German Jews deserved it, ay

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Stick your patronising $#@!e up your arse. Christ.

Pmsl! Where in any way is my post patronising? Factual? Yes , a dig at the left? Yes. Patronising no. Truth hurts doesn't it