REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Kenny]

It's not naivety at all Pads...The way to get through this is not to break up the UK.
So will you answer my last question? If the vote had been Remain should Wales of been given a referendum to give them the chance to leave the UK as they mostly voted Out?
Do you believe they would of been given that chance? If not, why should Scotland?

Northern Ireland are starting the push (well Sinn Fein are) for the them to leave.

The SNP are the biggest party in Scotland. They will push a vote to leave again, seriously no doubt about that. We don't really get a say in whether or not they have that vote.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It's not naivety at all Pads...The way to get through this is not to break up the UK.
So will you answer my last question? If the vote had been Remain should Wales of been given a referendum to give them the chance to leave the UK as they mostly voted Out?
Do you believe they would of been given that chance? If not, why should Scotland?

BECAUSE SCOTLAND IS ALREADY PROMISED IT. If there is a fundamental constitutional change there can be a second referendum.

 

[nimrod]

I didn't vote as I believe short term we will struggle, but long term it will improve and I wasn't sure I wanted to sacrifice the short term for the long term, however reading some of the comments on Facebook by the remain voters is pretty disgraceful.

The worst being 'This is why the poor shouldn't be allowed to vote'.

that's bad.

 

[Kenny]

Absolutely - let the people who are panicking and throwing paddies get it over with and then we can start the process of independence. Either way had pro's and cons, so in the next few weeks we can start focussing on the future.

Interesting to see who takes us into this. Cameron has always said he will do it straight away and start the 2 year process but Gove/Johnson want it to take 4 years, so the next Government is at the head of the talks with the EU and the rest of the world.

Will Cameron survive this result and also, buried in all of this - will Corbyn survive - Labour voters have rejected his request to stay in.

 

[North West Wanderer]

I know he didn't say it, but given the offer was made weeks ago he's had ample time to call it for what he thought it was. alternatively, make it one of the first messages you give post result.....

Absolutely. He's a toad

 

[jd1981]

How can Cameron see us out of the EU when he was determined for us to remain would seem very hypercritical.

 

[North West Wanderer]

I didn't vote as I believe short term we will struggle, but long term it will improve and I wasn't sure I wanted to sacrifice the short term for the long term, however reading some of the comments on Facebook by the remain voters is pretty disgraceful.

The worst being 'This is why the poor shouldn't be allowed to vote'.

The poor ie not London. Hmm

 

[darlowolf64]

BECAUSE SCOTLAND IS ALREADY PROMISED IT. If there is a fundamental constitutional change there can be a second referendum.

DO YOU BELIEVE WALES SHOULD OF BEEN GIVEN A REFERENDUM TO LEAVE THE UK IF THE VOTE HAD BEEN REMAIN?

Your question dodging is on a par with THM

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

No it bloody isn't. Scotland have been sold down the river. 2014 there were told a vote to stay in UK was a vote to stay in the EU. They are now being pulled out by force and they will not stand for it.

 

[Kenny]

DO YOU BELIEVE WALES SHOULD OF BEEN GIVEN A REFERENDUM TO LEAVE THE UK IF THE VOTE HAD BEEN REMAIN?

Your question dodging is on a par with THM

They could have, yes. Bit harder for them to get it as the Party that would want that are not the biggest in Wales so there wouldn't really be a push for it.

 

[nimrod]

How can Cameron see us out of the EU when he was determined for us to remain would seem very hypercritical.

surely Cameron was compromised anyway, even if he'd scraped home. and he wasn't standing again anyway. won't they just accelerate a leadership contest?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

As to Wales possibly. Northern Ireland are making all those noises in exactly that position. Wales voted to leave though so it is all rather irrelevant there.

 

[Tredman]

Wales voted leave, so it's a moot point.

Tim Farron making a lot of sense this morning, good on him.

 

[North West Wanderer]

So....

Uneducated
Idiot
What have you done
Ashamed
Embarrassed

Nice. Bravo.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Who has said that?

 

[North West Wanderer]

Who has said that?

A collection of social media.

 

[arklowolf]

Northern Ireland are starting the push (well Sinn Fein are) for the them to leave.

The SNP are the biggest party in Scotland. They will push a vote to leave again, seriously no doubt about that. We don't really get a say in whether or not they have that vote.

Rats joining a sinking ship. That's a new one.

 

[thehistorymakers]

It's not how you behave, when you win that matters, it's the way you behave, when you lose!

 

[Penk Wolf]

No it bloody isn't. Scotland have been sold down the river. 2014 there were told a vote to stay in UK was a vote to stay in the EU. They are now being pulled out by force and they will not stand for it.

Scotland voted to stay because they can't survive without English government pounds not because of the EU.

 

[Tredman]

So....

Uneducated
Idiot
What have you done
Ashamed
Embarrassed

Nice. Bravo.

That aimed at my post? That wasn't what he says on R4.