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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

Best of three would be fine by me.
 
... and once again, you've still not answered the question. Why is that?
 
The Saturday Boy said:
THM, if there was a second referendum are you confident that the outcome would be the same?
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Lets have a referendum to see if we want another referendum. Everyone voted, the result was out and that is the end of that. Otherwise why have one in the first place, apologies for posting for the second time on this thread when I said I wouldn't.
 
The Saturday Boy said:
THM, if there was a second referendum are you confident that the outcome would be the same?
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why would there be a second referendum? surely it could only be justified in the event there was a significant change in circumstances?

of course, phoney democrats will always want to stop when they get a 'result' they favour. and there is no democracy without truth.

I'd say it was difficult to exactly plan for the consequences of an exit when so much is dependent on 'to be had' negotiations. so, as forecast by the experts, there were always likely to be initial negative economic consequences to an exit decision whether cameron had stayed or not. to pretend otherwise just demonstrates the incompetence of those pretending it. doesn't mean those negative consequences can't be overcome - isn't George Osborne cosying up to the finance sector to allay their concerns and take their advice? and the CT reduction proposals? who would have thunk it - not the phonies, that's for sure.
 
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thehistorymakers said:
Should there be a third, if one side isn't happy with the second? Or should we stop when remain get the result they want? Like in Ireland.
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I haven't said there should be a second referendum let alone a third and you haven't answered my question. If there was a second referendum are you confident that the outcome would be the same?
 
Pretty sure that it was pointed out beforehand that there was no plan in place if out won and that , economically, the shit was going to hit the fan.

That said, I can't see why those who voted out are now complaining about it. It was patently obvious what was going to happen and they should accept that it's their responsibility.
 
I'd also say the Leave side need to stop framing the debate* in terms of "we" and "you". If it turns out they were right all along and Brexit will be great for the country then brilliant, we all win. If, as many of us suspect, it will be a disaster, we all lose. The rewards or otherwise aren't apportioned based on which way you voted.



*And yes, there bloody well should be a debate, "that's democracy, accept it" is not a valid standpoint either. As Ian Hislop said the other day, when one party wins an election, the Opposition don't accept that they have nothing to say for five years. Given you have somewhere in the region of 16 million voters who now have the direct opposite to what they want, you're going to need to do better than that.
 
The Saturday Boy said:
I haven't said there should be a second referendum let alone a third and you haven't answered my question. If there was a second referendum are you confident that the outcome would be the same?
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If there was a second referendum I think the remain camp would win.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
I'd also say the Leave side need to stop framing the debate* in terms of "we" and "you". If it turns out they were right all along and Brexit will be great for the country then brilliant, we all win. If, as many of us suspect, it will be a disaster, we all lose. The rewards or otherwise aren't apportioned based on which way you voted.



*And yes, there bloody well should be a debate, "that's democracy, accept it" is not a valid standpoint either. As Ian Hislop said the other day, when one party wins an election, the Opposition don't accept that they have nothing to say for five years. Given you have somewhere in the region of 16 million voters who now have the direct opposite to what they want, you're going to need to do better than that.
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I would be quite happy to wait and see what happens, when the Brexit has been completed. We have had over 40 years of being involved with the EEC and EU and the EU is in a bad state. This is why many EU nationals want to come to the UK, for work. Let's see if we can make a good go of it, I am sure we can.
 
If we voted to go back in the EU, we would be hung drawn and quartered. If we thought we never got our way before, going back with our tail between our legs, would leave us very open to the German and France way, of a more centralised EU.
 
Bit on the shaggies said:
Pretty sure that it was pointed out beforehand that there was no plan in place if out won and that , economically, the $#@! was going to hit the fan.

That said, I can't see why those who voted out are now complaining about it. It was patently obvious what was going to happen and they should accept that it's their responsibility.
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We haven't left yet, give us a chance!!!
 
From the link below.

An email to those who signed the petition said the prime minister and government had "been clear that this was a once-in-a-generation vote".
It said the decision "must be respected", and "we must now prepare for the process to exit the EU".
The UK voted to leave the EU by 52% to 48% in the referendum on 23 June.
Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama said he believed the UK would quit the European Union despite speculation the vote for Brexit could somehow be reversed.
"I think we have to assume that a referendum having been passed with a lot of attention, a lengthy campaign and relatively high participation rates is going to stick," he told a news conference at the end of a Nato summit in Warsaw.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36754376
 
thehistorymakers said:
From the link below.

An email to those who signed the petition said the prime minister and government had "been clear that this was a once-in-a-generation vote".
It said the decision "must be respected", and "we must now prepare for the process to exit the EU".
The UK voted to leave the EU by 52% to 48% in the referendum on 23 June.
Meanwhile, US President Barack Obama said he believed the UK would quit the European Union despite speculation the vote for Brexit could somehow be reversed.
"I think we have to assume that a referendum having been passed with a lot of attention, a lengthy campaign and relatively high participation rates is going to stick," he told a news conference at the end of a Nato summit in Warsaw.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36754376
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If there was a second referendum, are you confident of the same outcome?
 
don't worry guys, with a bit of cock stroking, big business and the finance sector will eventually sort out the mess left by weak and feeble politicians.
 
thehistorymakers said:
If we voted to go back in the EU, we would be hung drawn and quartered. If we thought we never got our way before, going back with our tail between our legs, would leave us very open to the German and France way, of a more centralised EU.
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Why? We are still in the EU. We haven't actually left.
 
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