Elephant Pyjamas
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Were Trump and Biden "good" 15 years ago?
Hmmm.
They are all puppets, but some are decent people and Joe was one of those, in my opinion.Hmmm.
With Biden, the opening lines to Pretty Vacant applied imo.
No point in asking, you'll get no reply, I just remembered I don't decide..
Just a puppet.
The 1st 2 sentences are 100% accurate. Whether you agree with last 2 sentences is a matter of your personal moral compass.
He was great on Parks and Rec.I genuinely couldn't tell you what great things he's done in this illustrious 50 year career, other than win the election and prevent Trump having a second successive term. He's also gift wrapped a 2nd term to Trump anyway, but thats a different matter. But I'd genuinely like you to tell me what great, progressive things he's done, cos for the life of me I can't think of any.
I think you and others seem to conflate 'not being an absolute cunt and stain on humankind like Trump' as being a really good guy. I like to think I evaluate politicians with a bit more depth of thinking than that. He's absolutely been the lesser of 2 evils. But a lesser evil is still an evil.
OJ can afford to be ideologically pure, he is a critic. He makes money from book sales and social media.There's no winning. The unhappiness of OJ and similarly minded people is unrelenting, and any attempt at nuance is just read as you not being bothered about the Gaza atrocities.
No.Were Trump and Biden "good" 15 years ago?
It's priorities innit? Gaza is a bit of a biggy. If I killed 5 random people tomorrow nobody will say yeah but he works with SEN kids so let him off.So are we saying that no politician in the world can be praised about anything, or have tributes paid at the end of a 50 year career, because they've been cunts on Gaza?
I've had this with somebody else last week, they were calling Lammy all the cunts under the sun because some random journalist had said they wouldn't withdraw the ICJ objection, the truth of which I doubted, which made me naive shill. Come Friday he's done it, but now it's just because LFOI gave them the OK to. There's no winning. The unhappiness of OJ and similarly minded people is unrelenting, and any attempt at nuance is just read as you not being bothered about the Gaza atrocities.
Also, trying to defend Biden from criticism as an 'attempt at nuance' is mind-numbingly shallow and vacuous and incredibly lacking in any critical thinking. Not to mention as you've been very vocal about the events in Gaza, unbelievably hypocritical.The unhappiness of OJ and similarly minded people is unrelenting, and any attempt at nuance is just read as you not being bothered about the Gaza atrocities.
Also, trying to defend Biden from criticism as an 'attempt at nuance' is mind-numbingly shallow and vacuous and incredibly lacking in any critical thinking. Not to mention as you've been very vocal about the events in Gaza, unbelievably hypocritical.
It's priorities innit? Gaza is a bit of a biggy. If I killed 5 random people tomorrow nobody will say yeah but he works with SEN kids so let him off.
What kind of great things would you have liked to have seen him do?I genuinely couldn't tell you what great things he's done in this illustrious 50 year career, other than win the election and prevent Trump having a second successive term
The American political system was never going to produce a President of either party that was going to treat Gazans like huhumans.