Lettuce Liz then Tetchy Rish! and the battle to replace him

[Elephant Pyjamas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1698674935424581991

She and her Government are doing a f***ing good job of ensuring that they won't be elected at the next election. Not sure what other praise she is asking for or who she is referring to as being sat on their arses.

That was amazing! They're absolutely deluded aren't they, it's never their fault, ever.

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[Tredman]

Imagine having voted for these utter cunts.

 

[Tredman]

Just listening to the newsagents podcast and Keegan is paying 34m to upgrade her office.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

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Imagine having voted for these utter cunts.

The people who vote for them agree with cuts to public spending, it is what being Conservative is?

 

[machin05]

Just listening to the newsagents podcast and Keegan is paying 34m to upgrade her office.

She claims to know nothing about it

 

[Tredman]

The people who vote for them agree with cuts to public spending, it is what being Conservative is?

Is it? I think that’s as simplistic as saying all Labour voters favour huge nationalised industries.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Is it? I think that’s as simplistic as saying all Labour voters favour huge nationalised industries.

I think the vast majority of Tories wanted a reduction in public spending, yes. It was the spine of Osborne and Cameron's election mantra!

The image you posted proves exactly that, they've been reducing public spending throughout their tenure , since 2010, and continued to get voted in. How can it not be what Tories want!?

Hell even Labour got on board with austerity as it was that popular, they daren't fight it, the cowards.

 

[Tredman]

I think the vast majority of Tories wanted a reduction in public spending, yes. It was the spine of Osborne and Cameron's election mantra!

The image you posted proves exactly that, they've been reducing public spending throughout their tenure , since 2010, and continued to get voted in. How can it not be what Tories want!?

Hell even Labour got on board with austerity as it was that popular, they daren't fight it, the cowards.

I suspect if you asked Tory voters from back then why they voted Tory the answer ‘I wanted to cut public spending’ wouldn’t be high on the reply list.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I suspect if you asked Tory voters from back then why they voted Tory the answer ‘I wanted to cut public spending’ wouldn’t be high on the reply list.

Are you saying that Austerity wasn't a huge part of what the Tories got elected on? Remember the song and dance they've made since the note about "there's no money left"!

They're still dining out on that bollocks now.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Cameron never foreshadowed what was to come in campaigning for 2010, not even close.

He didn't even win properly either.

 

[Tony Towner]

Are you saying that Austerity wasn't a huge part of what the Tories got elected on? Remember the song and dance they've made since the note about "there's no money left"!

They're still dining out on that bollocks now.

I think public service cuts is the consequence rather than the motivation. Low taxation, self interest and small Goverment is the driving force

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Cameron never foreshadowed what was to come in campaigning for 2010, not even close.

He didn't even win properly either.

I disagree, the Tory narrative was that Labour had been spend, spend, spend and that this is what had caused the crash (obviously this wasn't the case) they promised a period of fiscal responsibility (austerity) and the people bought into that in 2010, and once again in 2015 (not helped by Labour in 2015 agreeing with them)

They endlessly banged on about reducing the deficit, and millions fully bought into that, knowing full well that means less funding for public services.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I think public service cuts is the consequence rather than the motivation. Low taxation, self interest and small Goverment is the driving force

Perhaps, but those 3 in bold are cornerstones of what it is to be a Tory, we knew what we would be getting with that government, and it was voted for again in 2015.

 

[Tony Towner]

That's what 'we' as a country generally favour though. I'd like TWF to be representative, unfortunately it isn't. We are a fundamentally a soft right country fuelled by self interest and jingoism.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

That's what 'we' as a country generally favour though. I'd like TWF to be representative, unfortunately it isn't. We are a fundamentally a soft right country fuelled by self interest and jingoism.

I totally agree, that was entirely my point that Tred was disagreeing with. "The people" voted for austerity, for self interest, for "control of our borders" for Brexit, for Boris, they knew what they were voting for, it's what they wanted.

 

[Tony Towner]

I totally agree, that was entirely my point that Tred was disagreeing with. "The people" voted for austerity, for self interest, for "control of our borders" for Brexit, for Boris, they knew what they were voting for, it's what they wanted.

I suppose where we disagree is the overt nature of the consequences of those choices. I guess I have less of a respect for the intelligence of the average voter

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

People vote for what puts more money in their pocket. Hence low taxation is a vote winner. Simple as that.

 

[Tony Towner]

People vote for what puts more money in their pocket. Hence low taxation is a vote winner. Simple as that.

Brexit actively didn't, people voted for that. They vote for a story that confirms their biases

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That’s because a load of people are fucking racist cunts.

Money in wallet has been an important electoral decision driver for individual voters since time immemorial. If you don’t know that, you aren’t paying attention.

 

[PuntsWolf]

People vote for what puts more money in their pocket. Hence low taxation is a vote winner. Simple as that.

True. But often they vote for what they think puts more money in their pocket but it actually doesn’t.