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Yes I did and I stand by it. When football restarts we will see.
Just how good were/was/is/are (Wolves Edition)
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Yes I did and I stand by it. When football restarts we will see.
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Neto is class, genuinely think he could be whatever he wants to be. He's got everything you want in an attacking player and for a left footer his right foot is more than decent which gives him something extra. On the pace thing he's not Traore quick but he's definitely faster than Jota and he's just as quick with the ball. It's quite bold but I think he could possibly have the most potential out of all the players we have.
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39. Dave Edwards
David Alexander Edwards (born 3 February 1986) is a professional footballer who plays as a midfielder for League One club Shrewsbury Town.
Edwards began his career at hometown club Shrewsbury Town, making his professional debut in 2003. After three full seasons with the team in League Two he moved to Luton Town of League One in July 2007. Due to Luton's financial situation he moved the following January to Wolverhampton Wanderers for a fee believed to be £675,000. Edwards was part of the Wolves teams that won the Championship in 2009 and League One in 2013, and also played three seasons with the club in the Premier League. He totalled 307 games and 44 goals for the club before transferring to Reading in August 2017. In January 2019, he returned to Shrewsbury.
He was capped by the Welsh national team 43 times from 2007 to 2017, scoring three goals. Edwards represented the nation at UEFA Euro 2016, in which the Welsh reached the semi-finals.
On 14 January 2008, Edwards signed a two-and-a-half-year contract with Wolverhampton Wanderers. Five days after signing, Edwards made a goalscoring debut for the club in a 2–0 win away to Scunthorpe United. However, injuries kept him from playing a regular role in the remainder of the season. He returned fit for the following season, but found new signing David Jones often preferred alongside captain Karl Henry in central midfield; however, Edwards still started half the season's games as they won promotion to the Premier League. Following the conclusion of the season, Edwards signed a new three-year contract with the club.
The midfielder became a regular in the team after promotion, and contributed the winning goal against Fulham in the first home win of the season on 20 September 2009. He suffered ankle ligament damage that December which kept him out for four months, but he recovered to make five appearances in the closing months as the club retained their top-flight status. Edwards' contribution to Wolves in the 2010–11 season was severely hampered by injuries. He signed a new three-year contract with the club, including an option of a one-year extension, and made 12 appearances, scoring once in a 2–1 victory at home to Manchester City, where he scored past his former Shrewsbury teammate, and lodger, Joe Hart.
Edwards suffered two injury setbacks during the 2012–13 season, when he firstly tore his hamstring in December in a 4–1 win away to Bristol City, and after returning to first-team action, suffered a broken foot in the reverse fixture. Edwards remained with the club after they suffered a second consecutive relegation, scoring nine goals as the team won promotion back to the Championship at the first attempt as League One champions. On 13 June 2014, Edwards signed a new two-year contract with the club.
On 8 August 2015, he scored the winning goal in Wolves' first game of the 2015–16 season away to Blackburn Rovers, finishing Nouha Dicko's cross with his hand. Manager Kenny Jackett said after the game that the goal was scored by Edwards' hand, albeit not deliberately. Five days later, he signed a one-year contract extension to last until 2017. On 23 January 2016, Edwards broke the fifth metatarsal in his foot during a 1–1 draw away to Queens Park Rangers, ruling him out for three months. He returned to first-team football on 5 April as a 92nd-minute substitute for Joe Mason in a 2–1 win away to Milton Keynes Dons.
On 26 August 2017, Edwards signed for fellow Championship club Reading on a two-year contract for an undisclosed fee, reported by the Express & Star as £1 million.
David Alexander Edwards (born 3 February 1986) is a professional footballer who plays as a midfielder for League One club Shrewsbury Town.
Edwards began his career at hometown club Shrewsbury Town, making his professional debut in 2003. After three full seasons with the team in League Two he moved to Luton Town of League One in July 2007. Due to Luton's financial situation he moved the following January to Wolverhampton Wanderers for a fee believed to be £675,000. Edwards was part of the Wolves teams that won the Championship in 2009 and League One in 2013, and also played three seasons with the club in the Premier League. He totalled 307 games and 44 goals for the club before transferring to Reading in August 2017. In January 2019, he returned to Shrewsbury.
He was capped by the Welsh national team 43 times from 2007 to 2017, scoring three goals. Edwards represented the nation at UEFA Euro 2016, in which the Welsh reached the semi-finals.
On 14 January 2008, Edwards signed a two-and-a-half-year contract with Wolverhampton Wanderers. Five days after signing, Edwards made a goalscoring debut for the club in a 2–0 win away to Scunthorpe United. However, injuries kept him from playing a regular role in the remainder of the season. He returned fit for the following season, but found new signing David Jones often preferred alongside captain Karl Henry in central midfield; however, Edwards still started half the season's games as they won promotion to the Premier League. Following the conclusion of the season, Edwards signed a new three-year contract with the club.
The midfielder became a regular in the team after promotion, and contributed the winning goal against Fulham in the first home win of the season on 20 September 2009. He suffered ankle ligament damage that December which kept him out for four months, but he recovered to make five appearances in the closing months as the club retained their top-flight status. Edwards' contribution to Wolves in the 2010–11 season was severely hampered by injuries. He signed a new three-year contract with the club, including an option of a one-year extension, and made 12 appearances, scoring once in a 2–1 victory at home to Manchester City, where he scored past his former Shrewsbury teammate, and lodger, Joe Hart.
Edwards suffered two injury setbacks during the 2012–13 season, when he firstly tore his hamstring in December in a 4–1 win away to Bristol City, and after returning to first-team action, suffered a broken foot in the reverse fixture. Edwards remained with the club after they suffered a second consecutive relegation, scoring nine goals as the team won promotion back to the Championship at the first attempt as League One champions. On 13 June 2014, Edwards signed a new two-year contract with the club.
On 8 August 2015, he scored the winning goal in Wolves' first game of the 2015–16 season away to Blackburn Rovers, finishing Nouha Dicko's cross with his hand. Manager Kenny Jackett said after the game that the goal was scored by Edwards' hand, albeit not deliberately. Five days later, he signed a one-year contract extension to last until 2017. On 23 January 2016, Edwards broke the fifth metatarsal in his foot during a 1–1 draw away to Queens Park Rangers, ruling him out for three months. He returned to first-team football on 5 April as a 92nd-minute substitute for Joe Mason in a 2–1 win away to Milton Keynes Dons.
On 26 August 2017, Edwards signed for fellow Championship club Reading on a two-year contract for an undisclosed fee, reported by the Express & Star as £1 million.
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Can't knock him as he gave his all every game, but he lacked quality and the problem was for a few seasons he was getting a lot of starts in the number 10 role which meant we had a non creative player in a position where you need someone making things happen.
Very frustrating sometimes as he's have games where he was literally doing nothing, wasn't there a game where he touched it about 11 times?
Very frustrating sometimes as he's have games where he was literally doing nothing, wasn't there a game where he touched it about 11 times?
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I couldn't stand Dave Edwards and I make no apologies for that. He's a nice bloke and he tried hard was about the most you ever heard from his very strange band of acolytes. Well, so am I and so would I but you wouldn't put me in midfield for Wolves.
A woeful footballer and a coward. He hid from the ball, constantly. Next to zero technical attributes. Had the unerring ability to constantly look like he was playing a division above where he should have been, even in League One. The most pointless number 10 in the world when we put him there, hanging around vaguely near the striker and hoping a chance falls your way (he wasn't even a good finisher) is not what that role is supposed to be.
Incomprehensible that he played that many games for us. Getting £1m for him when he was already 31 was one of the great con jobs. I was nearly as delighted when he went as when Olofinjana left. Testament to Nuno that it took him a couple of sub appearances and a shite performance vs Yeovil for him to make his mind up, whereas other managers had somehow got a weird blindspot with him for nearly an entire decade. The very first thing he did under Nuno when he came on vs Boro was lamp the ball out of play under no pressure. That won't do here.
He's a reminder that life isn't fair. There is absolutely no way he should have made a vaguely top end football career at all. I wish him no personal ill, I'm sure he is a genuinely good guy. I just wish I'd never had to watch him play, let alone play hundreds and hundreds of times.
A woeful footballer and a coward. He hid from the ball, constantly. Next to zero technical attributes. Had the unerring ability to constantly look like he was playing a division above where he should have been, even in League One. The most pointless number 10 in the world when we put him there, hanging around vaguely near the striker and hoping a chance falls your way (he wasn't even a good finisher) is not what that role is supposed to be.
Incomprehensible that he played that many games for us. Getting £1m for him when he was already 31 was one of the great con jobs. I was nearly as delighted when he went as when Olofinjana left. Testament to Nuno that it took him a couple of sub appearances and a shite performance vs Yeovil for him to make his mind up, whereas other managers had somehow got a weird blindspot with him for nearly an entire decade. The very first thing he did under Nuno when he came on vs Boro was lamp the ball out of play under no pressure. That won't do here.
He's a reminder that life isn't fair. There is absolutely no way he should have made a vaguely top end football career at all. I wish him no personal ill, I'm sure he is a genuinely good guy. I just wish I'd never had to watch him play, let alone play hundreds and hundreds of times.
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Or you could watch highlights from any game he played in this season and admit you're wrong.
'Pedro Neto is very fast. He is! He's very fast.' Jose Mourinho, March 2020
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I didn’t just make up my opinion. I based it on what I’ve seen. If when there is further evidence I can see I’m wrong, I’m more than happy to admit that.
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I never minded Edwards, by no means someone you were ever going to build a team around or anything but someone that could do a job in the right situation.
Watching that video above he was way more of a weapon in the air than I ever remembered, actually some really good headers in there! Perhaps the only bit of technique he ever really mastered as he never really looked natural with the ball at his feet. Some of his movement was useful in what was often a pretty turgid squad though, not particularly nuanced by any means and more often than not a bit Forrest Gump in direction but in the right setup you could make use of that, a creative number 10 he was never going to be but you could rely on him being a willing runner from midfield to get an extra body in the box. Wolves rarely had a good enough set of midfielders that could play alongside him and control the game to allow that luxury though, his all round game was far too weak to ever play in a midfield pair effectively and there were far greater talents around to be treated as a luxury if you were going to look at it from that angle.
Very much a dog chasing a balloon when it came to defensive work, very little discipline just pure energy, perhaps rather the archetypal McCarthy player in that sense, graft over craft. Did alright for himself career wise though, sort of poor League 1 impression of a young Lampard but managed to get himself a bunch of Premier League and International appearances out of it. Can't help but like him.
Watching that video above he was way more of a weapon in the air than I ever remembered, actually some really good headers in there! Perhaps the only bit of technique he ever really mastered as he never really looked natural with the ball at his feet. Some of his movement was useful in what was often a pretty turgid squad though, not particularly nuanced by any means and more often than not a bit Forrest Gump in direction but in the right setup you could make use of that, a creative number 10 he was never going to be but you could rely on him being a willing runner from midfield to get an extra body in the box. Wolves rarely had a good enough set of midfielders that could play alongside him and control the game to allow that luxury though, his all round game was far too weak to ever play in a midfield pair effectively and there were far greater talents around to be treated as a luxury if you were going to look at it from that angle.
Very much a dog chasing a balloon when it came to defensive work, very little discipline just pure energy, perhaps rather the archetypal McCarthy player in that sense, graft over craft. Did alright for himself career wise though, sort of poor League 1 impression of a young Lampard but managed to get himself a bunch of Premier League and International appearances out of it. Can't help but like him.
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Didn't Mourinho start laughing after that comment?
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It was in reference to that ludicrous run at the end of the Spurs away game wasn't it? So yeah, if he laughed that was why.
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I'm still a bit annoyed that Ken binned off Jacobs in the Championship and played Edwards there every single fucking game. So stupid.
Also under Lambert - he missed PNE away as he was suspended and went off against Villa at home as he was concussed. Otherwise he played every single minute of every single game. Lambo wouldn't pick Saiss though as he "knows what Romain can do".
Now it isn't Dave Edwards' fault that managers are idiots and kept picking him, and I wouldn't not sign contracts if they were shoved under my nose. But by Christ it was annoying.
Also under Lambert - he missed PNE away as he was suspended and went off against Villa at home as he was concussed. Otherwise he played every single minute of every single game. Lambo wouldn't pick Saiss though as he "knows what Romain can do".
Now it isn't Dave Edwards' fault that managers are idiots and kept picking him, and I wouldn't not sign contracts if they were shoved under my nose. But by Christ it was annoying.
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https://youtu.be/jB0g0h3sCO0
There, didn't take long. First video I looked at, inside the first minute. Absolutely roasts Ben Chilwell who is bloody fast himself.
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Yes he does roast Chilwell there. Albeit Chilwell does looks bit slow and has a bad angle running to start when Neto already at full pelt.
When he first joined I thought he was rapid, I then saw him lose some foot races. Maybe I’m wrong, certainly not going to start shouting at some strangers on a forum about it.
When he first joined I thought he was rapid, I then saw him lose some foot races. Maybe I’m wrong, certainly not going to start shouting at some strangers on a forum about it.
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From memory I think the question was angled at slagging off N'Dombele for his pathetic attempt at tracking back to defend so you got a bit of classic Mourinho deflection in response and he just said Neto was rapid rather than slagging off his player. Also, didn't the rapid Pedro Neto get caught up by Harry Winks on that run which lead to him mugging him off twice?
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I think you need to watch it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GCpQio7rIc
9.25, although it's a joy to watch the whole match again. My favourite moment is Doherty celebrating a brilliant block more than he did his goal.
Neto's run was a jinking, skilful run, with short explosions of pace.
I think the comparison with Jota in terms of pace is a fair one, neither are anywhere near Adama paace, but they are both quick in general terms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GCpQio7rIc
9.25, although it's a joy to watch the whole match again. My favourite moment is Doherty celebrating a brilliant block more than he did his goal.
Neto's run was a jinking, skilful run, with short explosions of pace.
I think the comparison with Jota in terms of pace is a fair one, neither are anywhere near Adama paace, but they are both quick in general terms.
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Dave Edwards - lovely guy, bloody awful footballer who got an amazingly easy ride from our fans.
The midfield of him, saville and Coady was the worst I’ve ever seen
The midfield of him, saville and Coady was the worst I’ve ever seen
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I've probably seen Ferguson and Rankine together. That would take some beating.
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To be fair, by all accounts Jacobs kind of binned himself off with a shitty attitude.
Edwards had his moments. I am not going to hate on him, yes he was limited and he knew that himself. I was delighted when he showed a little bit of being a shit when he scored with his hand v Blackburn
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Jacobs' Wigan career has been good in League 1, crap and lightweight in the Championship.
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Yeah i struggle to criticise him too much, by simply trying in every game he did more than 100s of players I've watched for Wolves, even if that should be a bare minimum.
I don't think he hid either, i just don't think he was good enough to effect games.
41 goals in 284 isn't too bad.
