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Jeremy Corbyn

I think Corbyn is missing an open goal tap in at the moment, he hasn't even mentioned Duncan-Smith, hopefully he'll redeem himself in prime ministers questions.

He seems committed to non-Punch and Judy politics and McDonnell called Gideon out today for not turning up. Just like the EU, you can say nothing here and let the Tories turn on themselves, no need to have a cheap dig.
 
I admire his stance (re: Punch and Judy) but he should be going for the jugular, massive opportunity that he's in danger of wasting.
 
Yeah, I agree to an extent but what's the response going to be?

- Trite soundbite, 'one nation', 'long term economic plan', 'fixing the roof while the sun's shining' etc

- Non-sequitur of a criticism of a Labour administration that left power nearly six years ago

- Unrelated personal insult, 'you've got a shit tie' or similar

There's no knockout punch to be had.
 
There's having no knockout punch DW - and then there's not even bothering to make any impact at all...
 
The Commons is a nonsense these days, you won't get a Geoffrey Howe moment in that climate. Our esteemed PM evidently has no wish to debate like an adult so don't indulge him and his sub-Frog and Bucket open mic night bantz.
 
There's having no knockout punch DW - and then there's not even bothering to make any impact at all...

If your witness to a couple of wild animals ripping each other apart its best not to fire your own gun they may both run for cover or transfer their anger towards you.
 
A list categorising Labour MPs as supportive or hostile of Jeremy Corbyn did not "originate" from his office, the Labour leader's spokesman has said.
He said the leaked document, set out in The Times, did not reflect Mr Corbyn's views and he had no knowledge of it.
He admitted the list had "caused some problems" after David Cameron raised it during Prime Minister's Questions.
Among those described as hostile to him include London mayoral candidate Sadiq Khan and chief whip Rosie Winterton.
The Labour spokesman said Mr Corbyn had a good working relationship with his MPs and there were no lists in his office.
But one Labour MP, John Woodcock, posted an expletive-laden tweet saying Mr Corbyn's list had turned Labour into a laughing stock at Prime Minister's Questions and saying the opposition leader had failed to capitalise on David Cameron's worst week since last year's election victory.
 
Its as if someone decided Labour wasn't getting any negative press this week.
 
Its as if someone decided Labour wasn't getting any negative press this week.

Brought it on themselves Kenny. Corbyn not only missed an open goal, he then somehow contrived to score an own goal. And it is not Conservatives accusing Corbyn of making Labour a laughing stock, it is one of his own MP's.
 
Brought it on themselves Kenny. Corbyn not only missed an open goal, he then somehow contrived to score an own goal. And it is not Conservatives accusing Corbyn of making Labour a laughing stock, it is one of his own MP's.

As we are seeing across both parties though, seems some MP's are happy to stab people in the back for their own gain. Its all very tiresome really and they wonder so many people don't give 2 shits about Politics anymore.
 
As we are seeing across both parties though, seems some MP's are happy to stab people in the back for their own gain. Its all very tiresome really and they wonder so many people don't give 2 $#@!s about Politics anymore.

Frank's right though. This is the perfect time for Corbyn to project strength, leadership and a different way other than Tory selfishness and nepotism and the Labour Party are failing massively. This is weak, however you look at it and as you point out, people aren't interested in either group as both are as petty as each other.
 
Frank's right though. This is the perfect time for Corbyn to project strength, leadership and a different way other than Tory selfishness and nepotism and the Labour Party are failing massively. This is weak, however you look at it and as you point out, people aren't interested in either group as both are as petty as each other.

I lost you at "Frank's right".

The current Labour Party has no policies - that in itself isn't unusual for an opposition party at this point in the electoral cycle but it is worse for Corbyn because even if he fell back on the last manifesto there is loads in there he wouldn't agree with. He needs to get on with it though - a majority of 12 is nothing and he should be presenting an alternative offer sooner rather than later otherwise he will just continue to drift and keep facing opposition from within the ranks and if an election comes up before 2020 there will be a vacuum.
 
Anyone see Stewart Lee last week and what Jeremy Corbyn did to the English flag?
 
I lost you at "Frank's right".

The current Labour Party has no policies - that in itself isn't unusual for an opposition party at this point in the electoral cycle but it is worse for Corbyn because even if he fell back on the last manifesto there is loads in there he wouldn't agree with. He needs to get on with it though - a majority of 12 is nothing and he should be presenting an alternative offer sooner rather than later otherwise he will just continue to drift and keep facing opposition from within the ranks and if an election comes up before 2020 there will be a vacuum.

I know you're active in Labour circles TSB, is your view above the majority amongst the rank and file? Personally, I wanted Corbyn and his team to go for Cameron and particularly Osborne and really put them under pressure. But they didn't and I can't work out why. It was said elsewhere that Dennis Skinner was a problem with the Labour Party, and whilst I don't agree with his policies, he wouldn't have stood idly by and let the Conservative's off the hook.
 
I know you're active in Labour circles TSB, is your view above the majority amongst the rank and file? Personally, I wanted Corbyn and his team to go for Cameron and particularly Osborne and really put them under pressure. But they didn't and I can't work out why. It was said elsewhere that Dennis Skinner was a problem with the Labour Party, and whilst I don't agree with his policies, he wouldn't have stood idly by and let the Conservative's off the hook.

I haven't been active for about a year now, I would suggest that the party is a bit unsure of itself at the moment. The Parliamentary Party doesn't represent the membership - but many of the members who voted for Corbyn aren't particularly well represented in local constituency parties which are still, by and large, run by the same people.

Someone on this thread made the point that while the Conservatives were ripping into each other, there was no real benefit in Labour joining in just because they could and I tend to agree - had they waded in it could all have become about the Labour Party when the story was all about the Tories. I don't find the shallow soundbites that masquerade as political debate particularly useful and I am interested to see whether Corbyn really can get through to 2020 without descending to that level. I certainly don't see that sort of politics of a sign of good leadership or strength.
 
I lost you at "Frank's right".

The current Labour Party has no policies - that in itself isn't unusual for an opposition party at this point in the electoral cycle but it is worse for Corbyn because even if he fell back on the last manifesto there is loads in there he wouldn't agree with. He needs to get on with it though - a majority of 12 is nothing and he should be presenting an alternative offer sooner rather than later otherwise he will just continue to drift and keep facing opposition from within the ranks and if an election comes up before 2020 there will be a vacuum.

Frank is still right tsb pmsl
 

Tory goes to Tory town, presents Corbyn policies without mentioning where they came from. Unanimous support ensues.
 
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