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Jeremy Corbyn

Yep, Corbyn was given a mandate by the Labour members and the shadow cabinet should be reflective of those views.

And the MPs were given a mandate by their constituents and have to represent those views.

Hence another three shadow cabinet bods resigning today. Still think it's going well Vis?
 

He's doing the right thing. Trouble is you have a majority of MP's who are more aligned with the right than the left. Either he joins the SLP or the majority form a separate party. The cabinet should reflect the leader and more importantly Labour Party values. Is the Labour Party the one Blair lead or the one Corbyn leads? In this instance the latter ...
 
Shame about Pat McFadden he's a fine MP and certainly no 'Blairite', seems Jeremy's broad church ain't that broad.
 
And the MPs were given a mandate by their constituents and have to represent those views.

Hence another three shadow cabinet bods resigning today. Still think it's going well Vis?

If the MPs in question cant support the party platform then its entirely fitting that they resign, yes.
 
If the MPs in question cant support the party platform then its entirely fitting that they resign, yes.

I agree. MP's should support the party platform, just as Mr Corbyn used to do. Except for the 500 times he voted against his own party.
 
Corbyn wasn't a frontbencher at the time though.
 
Corbyn wasn't a frontbencher at the time though.

Exactly. All these people who've resigned accepted a front bench position knowing full well that Corbyn was a raging trot. If they didnt like his politics they shouldnt have accepted.
 
I agree. MP's should support the party platform, just as Mr Corbyn used to do. Except for the 500 times he voted against his own party.

So what your saying us that all MPs, from whichever party, shoukd blindly follow a party policy regardless? Is that your version of democracy - sound more like North Korea. You surprise me.
 
I agree. MP's should support the party platform, just as Mr Corbyn used to do. Except for the 500 times he voted against his own party.

If that's so, how come cameron has been forced to back down on his own stated position re eu campaigning?
 
If that's so, how come cameron has been forced to back down on his own stated position re eu campaigning?
That's called good leadership. Allowing your MP'S a free vote is good.

Unless your surname is Corbyn. Then allowing your MP'S a free vote is weak and a shambles.
 
I agree. MP's should support the party platform, just as Mr Corbyn used to do. Except for the 500 times he voted against his own party.

As I'm sure you're aware, the Conservative Party will give its MPs a free vote on EU as they can't come to a consensus. How is this any different from what has happened in the Labour Party of late and are you going to equally condemn those MPs who vote against the party platform?
 
Shame about Pat McFadden he's a fine MP and certainly no 'Blairite', seems Jeremy's broad church ain't that broad.

Disagreements are fine and expected, which is what Corbyn wanted. Undermining the current party direction and its leader are not. It's all very well having a different view point but if you're going to be a tw*t about it then the sacking is correct.
 
My main thoughts about the reshuffle is why is it a problem that it has taken a while? It really doesn't matter and I'm more inclined to believe that due consideration has been taken as opposed to the "bumbling idiot" alternative that some people are trying to sell us.

Thought this was a decent article on the subject: Reshuffles, Resignations and "Catch 22" Politics
 
As I'm sure you're aware, the Conservative Party will give its MPs a free vote on EU as they can't come to a consensus. How is this any different from what has happened in the Labour Party of late and are you going to equally condemn those MPs who vote against the party platform?

The Conservative party have torn themselves apart over Europe, and may well do so again as the referendum approaches. Personally, I would probably not agree with the party leadership over Europe, but I dare say that discussion is for the "Dave again" thread.
 
Disagreements are fine and expected, which is what Corbyn wanted. Undermining the current party direction and its leader are not. It's all very well having a different view point but if you're going to be a tw*t about it then the sacking is correct.

Pat McFadden is not a twat, he represents Labour voters such as myself who are not members, not activists, support the retention of Trident and support the bombing of Isis in Syria but find themselves being ostracised by the 'Corbynista's'.
 
Ah rover, but apparently your views, your mp's views and those of the parliamentary Labour Party are unimportant unless they coincide with wor jezza and the stop the war campaign...
 
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