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Jeremy Corbyn

Premier Quality said:
That old chestnut? The evil press brainwashing the stupid population?

Or is it just that people think his perma-student protest politics would be bad for the country?
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Not necessarily stupidity - though surely you're not denying the existence of stupid people? - but it's fairly well established that public perceptions of pretty much everything are wrong, generally erring on things being "worse" than they really are. https://www.ipsos-mori.com/research...t-reality-10-things-the-world-gets-wrong.aspx

I think it's fair to say that most people are uncritical consumers of the media messages that get put out, and if those messages are heavily weighted towards one particular worldview then it's not surprising that that view is reflected in public opinion, even if a lot of what is put out there is patent nonsense.
 
So Long Architect said:
Not necessarily stupidity - though surely you're not denying the existence of stupid people? - but it's fairly well established that public perceptions of pretty much everything are wrong, generally erring on things being "worse" than they really are. https://www.ipsos-mori.com/research...t-reality-10-things-the-world-gets-wrong.aspx

I think it's fair to say that most people are uncritical consumers of the media messages that get put out, and if those messages are heavily weighted towards one particular worldview then it's not surprising that that view is reflected in public opinion, even if a lot of what is put out there is patent nonsense.
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Whats very noticeable when the general public are interviewed by a political reporter is the general ignorance of politics within the UK, a very apathetic nature towards politics.
 
Lord Knows said:
Whats very noticeable when the general public are interviewed by a political reporter is the general ignorance of politics within the UK, a very apathetic nature towards politics.
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I don't think our political establishment does itself any favours though, preferring headlines over substance when it comes to outlining policy. New Labour's period in government coincided with the arrival of 24 hour rolling news, social media and the ability for news stories to break as they happened. Their response was to dumb down politics to bite size chunks and sound bites and everyone else has followed that same mantra.
 
Visage said:
Has Frank hacked your account?

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Frank has recently refrained from commenting on this and other politically motivated threads because of the blatant pro left wing agenda on this forum.
 
FrankMunro-371 said:
Frank has recently refrained from commenting on this and other politically motivated threads because of the blatant pro left wing agenda on this forum.
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I know, until recently it was barely noticeable. I hope you are checking for reds under the bed before you pick up your copy of Pinochet's autobiography and put your head down on your Donald Trump pillowcase.
 
As forums go, it is fairly left wing I suppose. I don't see many left wing people shutting down debate though, it's an awful deflection tactic to say that you're not allowed to say something when you quite blatantly are. Almost as if you don't actually want your opinions to be subject to reasoned discussion. You know, just saying.

For the record please feel free to shoot down my Trotskyite opinions.
 
The Saturday Boy said:
I know, until recently it was barely noticeable. I hope you are checking for reds under the bed before you pick up your copy of Pinochet's autobiography and put your head down on your Donald Trump pillowcase.
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Quite, but I think it important we make a distinction between politics and humanitarians. Democracy is vibrant and real when you get a Jeremy Corbyn to vote for. Far more engaging for the apathetic. Corbyn's are essential when you get a Trump. Corbyn needs to attack (on humanitarian grounds).
 
It's not like alternative viewpoints are completely unrepresented on here - PQ, Johnny, Arklo etc all frequently post on political stuff. The world seems to keep turning.
I don't know much about West Midlands politics, but i believe it's largely a Labour area, so it seems logical that more members of this forum would lean more in that direction than the other.
 
So Long Architect said:
It's not like alternative viewpoints are completely unrepresented on here - PQ, Johnny, Arklo etc all frequently post on political stuff. The world seems to keep turning.
I don't know much about West Midlands politics, but i believe it's largely a Labour area, so it seems logical that more members of this forum would lean more in that direction than the other.
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Likewise if Henley Rowing Club have a fans forum I would expect the balance to be heavily Conservative.
 
Fuck me! What is it with folk? Forum posting challenged shock horror.
 
So Long Architect said:
It's not like alternative viewpoints are completely unrepresented on here - PQ, Johnny, Arklo etc all frequently post on political stuff. The world seems to keep turning.
I don't know much about West Midlands politics, but i believe it's largely a Labour area, so it seems logical that more members of this forum would lean more in that direction than the other.
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Frank does seem to get jumped on a bit more than the rest of us though to be fair.

Most of the discussions I get involved in are pretty reasonable though, most people try and avoid getting pissy.
 
Premier Quality said:
Frank does seem to get jumped on a bit more than the rest of us though to be fair.

Most of the discussions I get involved in are pretty reasonable though, most people try and avoid getting pissy.
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Perhaps but I think that's more to do with posting style than point of view.
 
So Long Architect said:
Perhaps but I think that's more to do with posting style than point of view.
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The posting style of some of the reds on here, is far
More bitchy than Frank's. Just saying like.
My point of view is that you should be able to make your point and have a healthy debate, without the need to get personal.
 
I manage that, and I am known to be right of centre. Equally, bar a bit of ribbing, other posters don't seem to attack me too much.
 
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