January 2022 Transfer Thread

[Tony Towner]

So if we buy all this, then how do people feel about us signing both of Hwang and Trincao? Personally for touching £40m I think we've sold ourselves short. A lot could change, but at the moment if everyone were fit neither would be in our best 11

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I believe they are selling a 49% stake in Barcelona studios (no idea what that means) but that will end their wage bill nightmare. Wage bill headroom will go to something like £400m

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

So if we buy all this, then how do people feel about us signing both of Hwang and Trincao? Personally for touching £40m I think we've sold ourselves short. A lot could change, but at the moment if everyone were fit neither would be in our best 11

If the use of it increases the FFP wiggle and the loan increases the cash flow wiggle I suspect someone else is on the way either this weekend, knowing that the Adama / Trincao deal is a definite or someone is coming in the summer.

 

[PuntsWolf]

So if we buy all this, then how do people feel about us signing both of Hwang and Trincao? Personally for touching £40m I think we've sold ourselves short. A lot could change, but at the moment if everyone were fit neither would be in our best 11

Well currently I don’t want either but it’s not down to me. The club Obviously want both.

I’m more ok with the Trincao deal as he’s young and clearly taleneted.

 

[Jabbawolf]

So if we buy all this, then how do people feel about us signing both of Hwang and Trincao? Personally for touching £40m I think we've sold ourselves short. A lot could change, but at the moment if everyone were fit neither would be in our best 11

Hopefully a good bench option, and someone who matures into a gem, but accept that Trincao has not shown that as yet.

 

[Del Woppio]

We don't need FFP wiggle room, or cash flow - unless we've paid off the best part of half of our loans to Fosun, we should have plenty of both.

We can imagine all of the clandestine dealings under the sun, but that doesn't change the fact that for the second half of the season we've lost a player from a small squad. The apparent 'best case' of this deal is that we buy Trincao, with his £130k per week wage. I'm not sure that's a good thing.

 

[AndyWolves]

Hwang ticks the box of being able to play all across the front three, which we've been after for ages.

Trincao has skills, and the potential to develop into a very cultured player. Remains to be seen if he will though

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It makes enormous sense. I get you don't like it Del, and I also respect that point of view. Proper Mendes carousel stuff.

 

[Del Woppio]

W

Plus the Macquarie loan now makes sense, as it has given us the cash flow wiggle room to both make Hwang permanent and exploit the FFP wiggle room to get another body in.

We aren't signing Hwang until the summer, we've just commited to it for no apparent reason.

 

[Del Woppio]

It makes enormous sense. I get you don't like it Del, and I also respect that point of view. Proper Mendes carousel stuff.

Trincao is worth £25m and at least £130k a week?

 

[The Bear]

We aren't signing Hwang until the summer, we've just commited to it for no apparent reason.

Just because it isn't apparent to you, doesn't mean it isn't apparent to the people running the club.

We wouldn't have pulled the trigger on him early unless it benefitted us in some way. Either warding off other interest, or financial reasons.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

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We aren't signing Hwang until the summer, we've just commited to it for no apparent reason.

Correct. Maybe at a slight discount on the summer price had we waited until then to commit, but its peanuts in the scheme of things (that difference, not the fee). I think your use of the term clandestine is bang on. And I suspect our "reward" for going through this is coming in the next round of Mendes carousel. We shall have to wait and see.

 

[Del Woppio]

Just because it isn't apparent to you, doesn't mean it isn't apparent to the people running the club.

We wouldn't have pulled the trigger on him early unless it benefitted us in some way. Either warding off other interest, or financial reasons.

We could have signed him at any point during the loan, for the pre-agreed fee. Nobody else could.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

I get that we might not want Trincao (he hasn't set the world on fire yet), but by the same token he might not want us. What would happen then?

 

[Alan]

I would hope that Trincao will have been involved in these conversations if the deal really involves him as much as it seems to.

 

[PuntsWolf]

We aren’t gong to be paying Trincao £130k.

 

[Del Woppio]

Correct. Maybe at a slight discount on the summer price had we waited until then to commit, but its peanuts in the scheme of things (that difference, not the fee). I think your use of the term clandestine is bang on. And I suspect our "reward" for going through this is coming in the next round of Mendes carousel. We shall have to wait and see.

I think the word 'imagined' is more bang on that 'clandestine', but indeed - we'll see.

Even if it plays out - we're not getting good value in Trincao, at all.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Trincao is worth £25m and at least £130k a week?

1. The fee is effectively free or indeed financially positive in this murky mess. So worth is less of an issue, although amortisation is always fun when positive but sucks hugely when it is getting eaten out of the accounts later in player contracts.

2. Who knows what terms Trincao will be agreeing to if this happens? I don't, you don't, only Jorge Mendes does. If we can afford the £130k and it doesn't piss our other higher earners off I suppose again, we just have to wait and see.

I can totally see the accounting sense of everything about this. Whether it works playing wise is obviously proof of the pudding is in the eating stuff.

 

[Lycan]

We were never not going to sign Hwang permanently. That was clear from the day he arrived. We chose to 'sign' him on his 26th birthday on the 26/1, until 2026 and he wears #26... The announcement the other day was a social media stunt, nothing more.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Who fancies using this newfound wiggle room (assuming I am right, and not talking an enormous amount of bollocks, which is also a possibility) to get Vitinha and ANOther midfielder in?