General Wolves News

[Lycan]

Well deserved.

Get the man a new contract as well.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Well deserved.

Get the man a new contract as well.

We've got an option to 2026 anyway

 

[Alan]

Never been happier to with a player who used to act a child. Love Mario

 

[Lycan]

We've got an option to 2026 anyway

Even still, you don't let a guy like Mario go into the last year of his contract.

Plus, he absolutely deserves it. We should show any potential signings that if you come to Wolves and give it your all you'll be rewarded.

 

[Del Woppio]

Aye, I'd definitely be happy giving him a payrise - he's a lot more important and valuable to us than we all thought he'd be when he signed

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, no problem at all with extending it and improving the terms - just saying it's not one that's an immediate ticking timebomb (Semedo is definitely out of contract next year and I think Sarabia and Dawson are too, no options)

 

[Alan]

Think GFFH has said we’d be happy enough selling Pablo this window which is fair enough given his wages. Given some really brilliant moments amongst a lot of bland ones but how different could last season have been without his cameo against Spurs?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Think GFFH has said we’d be happy enough selling Pablo this window which is fair enough given his wages. Given some really brilliant moments amongst a lot of bland ones but how different could last season have been without his cameo against Spurs?

A great day but wouldn't say it turned anything particularly:



Chelsea at home on Christmas Eve was a big one. Could and should have been 4-0 down early on but they had Jackson and that camel Broja up front fucking everything up. We were in some bother if we'd lost. As it was we won, then won again twice in a week and all of a sudden relegation was basically out of the equation before we were singing Auld Lang Syne.

 

[YoungWolf]

A great day but wouldn't say it turned anything particularly:

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Chelsea at home on Christmas Eve was a big one. Could and should have been 4-0 down early on but they had Jackson and that camel Broja up front fucking everything up. We were in some bother if we'd lost. As it was we won, then won again twice in a week and all of a sudden relegation was basically out of the equation before we were singing Auld Lang Syne.

God we were properly shit in some of those games too. I went to Fulham and West Ham. Garbage.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

God we were properly shit in some of those games too. I went to Fulham and West Ham. Garbage.

Fulham kind of got washed over because of the two shocking penalty decisions, plus Ream and Vinicius should both have been sent off, but we weren't very good. Gaz randomly changed formation at West Ham AND played Dawson despite him being ill, terrible display and awful goals to concede.

Forest at home was wank. Properly showed up the issues of ALWAYS playing three at the back (because we couldn't trust our captain and main centre half to do anything else). Was like watching a McGhee team.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

You'll all be surprised to read I'm concerned about us playing 4 at the back this season

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I think we all are if we don't sign at least one CH with the right attributes.

I'm not sorry that we're not locked into one formation though, that's a shit state of affairs.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's not just the attributes, it's that they need to be really, really good for it to work for a club of our status.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Do they?

I mean Brentford often play a back four with Ben Mee and Ethan Pinnock at CH. They're alright but I wouldn't say they're "really, really good" (I would prefer either to Kilman in a back four).

 

[Deano]

It's not just the attributes, it's that they need to be really, really good for it to work for a club of our status.

There are plenty of other teams that are around where we are that play a back 4. Plus with having Lemina and Gomes that are defensively minded midfield players, you really shouldn't be relying exclusively on a back 5.

 

[Johnny75]

There are plenty of other teams that are around where we are that play a back 4. Plus with having Lemina and Gomes that are defensively minded midfield players, you really shouldn't be relying exclusively on a back 5.

Yep that's a coaching thing.

 

[Alan]

A great day but wouldn't say it turned anything particularly:

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Chelsea at home on Christmas Eve was a big one. Could and should have been 4-0 down early on but they had Jackson and that camel Broja up front fucking everything up. We were in some bother if we'd lost. As it was we won, then won again twice in a week and all of a sudden relegation was basically out of the equation before we were singing Auld Lang Syne.

Pretty amazing how the Spurs match lives so large in my brain that I thought for certain it had come after the Fulham and Arsenal losses.

 

[Alan]

There are plenty of other teams that are around where we are that play a back 4. Plus with having Lemina and Gomes that are defensively minded midfield players, you really shouldn't be relying exclusively on a back 5.

They are defensively minded but on evidence (whether it's because of them or Gary's tactics, as I suspect) they are the furthest thing in the world from #6s. I don't think we can anticipate that they'll offer significant shielding for the backline at this stage as that's not what Gary has asked them to do, really ever.

 

[Tony Towner]

From memory last season the only PL sides who used a back 5 as their base system were
Wolves, Palace (after the managerial change), Luton and Sheff Utd. Its not like it's some unfathomable conundrum, Wolves just make it so. Fundamentally because since we've been promoted we've signed just one centre half, in the autumn of his career, who does the fundamentals right - with Mosquera potentially being another

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

If/when we move that way then:

a) The full backs need to defend the back stick much, much better
b) We need to keep the ball better (we haven't been good at this since Nuno left)
c) Clearly the CH pairing needs to be right, Kilman and Collins as our attempt in 2022 was a disaster

You can't cling to this comfort blanket of three CHs forever though. I mean we don't even have the same players (bar Doherty, and I don't ever want to see him play a single minute for us again ideally) as we did in 2019 - why would you *need* to play that way.