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[Deutsch Wolf]

I mean honestly, how much does it even mean anymore?

Captains are made, not chosen. The leaders within the squad are who they will be. The problem with Max is his ability to play football, not so much the extra strip of cloth on his bicep, IMO.

It's more the hole we've dug ourselves in.

I mean if you've turned down £30m for someone, handed them a five year deal for no reason and made them captain, you can't very well drop them after four games, can you?

But we should because outwith Luton/Sheff Utd/Michael Keane he may well be the worst centre half in the league. He's fucking wank.

 

[Tony Towner]

I mean honestly, how much does it even mean anymore?

Captains are made, not chosen. The leaders within the squad are who they will be. The problem with Max is his ability to play football, not so much the extra strip of cloth on his bicep, IMO.

I agree with the general point, but you do have an issue if the squad doesn't respect him. I have no idea if that is or will become the case obviously

 

[Alan]

It's more the hole we've dug ourselves in.

I mean if you've turned down £30m for someone, handed them a five year deal for no reason and made them captain, you can't very well drop them after four games, can you?

But we should because outwith Luton/Sheff Utd/Michael Keane he may well be the worst centre half in the league. He's fucking wank.

Can't argue against any of that, of course. More saying that I don't think Kilman's fuck ups are going to make the squad feel worse just because he's captain.

As for dropping the captain, I don't think the armband should protect you at all. Accept that that simply isn't the way it tends to work, but that's how I feel. You're the captain, you're the manager's lieutenant out there, so to speak. If your performances don't match the prestige that comes with captaincy, off to the bench with you.

 

[Alan]

I agree with the general point, but you do have an issue if the squad doesn't respect him. I have no idea if that is or will become the case obviously

Maybe so.

Vastly different levels, obviously, but remember thinking my defensive captain back when I played high school football was a total ass. Physically gifted but drill sergeant style and just... not a high football IQ, as the coaches would say. But he was the Blue Chip on the team so we had to listen to him try to pump us up.

Eventually the rest of the DBs and I just started ignoring him and found other ways to get mentally prepped. Didn't end up hurting the overall chemistry. Might have been more of a problem if the guy in question had also been a DB and not a LB... but I digress.

Just rambling at this point.

 

[sycophantia]

Agree. But being captain makes them harder to drop or more drama than needed when you do.

This is a big issue for me, no matter how he plays or if he loses confidence, its very difficult to drop him now.

 

[prawnking]

He must have been good at one point... I'm sure he had an impressive run of form and was in tenuous England contention for some? Then the arse dropped out of it. Or have I misremembered?

What was he doing right then that he's now doing so wrong? Or was it system/partners/team form? Can he never get that back?

 

[Kenny]

He was surely good at one point... I'm sure he had an impressive run of form and was in tenuous England contention for some? Then the arse dropped out of it. Or have I misremembered?

What was he doing right then that he's now doing so wrong? Or was it system/partners/team form? Can he never get that back?

He had a very good spell under Lage.
Was getting shouts for England...Southgate turned up to watch him and he went to shit

 

[Tony Towner]

He must have been good at one point... I'm sure he had an impressive run of form and was in tenuous England contention for some? Then the arse dropped out of it. Or have I misremembered?

What was he doing right then that he's now doing so wrong? Or was it system/partners/team form? Can he never get that back?

Played in a 3 with Coady as a sweeper. It simplified the game for him

 

[Alan]

Played in a 3 with Coady as a sweeper. It simplified the game for him

I think that definitely helped.

Pure speculation as to the cause, but he was genuinely imperious for about two months prior to the Ukraine invasion (not saying the return to his norm had anything to do with that, just coincidence of timing most likely). Felt like he'd never lose a 1-on-1 duel again. Alas.

 

[Tony Towner]

Sorry Alan, I've never bought that and still don't. The fall off as described by Kenny predates it anyway

 

[Alan]

Sorry Alan, I've never bought that and still don't. The fall off as described by Kenny predates it anyway

No, as I say I don't think we can really know the cause, just the Ukraine invasion sticks out in my mind as a current event that happened to coincide with when I noticed Max had really regressed. I'd have picked that out as the calendar-marker even if folks in the media hadn't drawn an actual line between the two.

 

[Kenny]

Just before his collapse in form and ability we genuinely thought we would have 2 Wolves players in the England squad for the 2 games at Molineux

 

[C.L.D]

Just before his collapse in form and ability we genuinely thought we would have 2 Wolves players in the England squad for the 2 games at Molineux

Yeah, I thought it was the Southgate visit game where he had a mare, then kept getting worse since. I can't remember what the timeline is there vs the Invasion.

Players aren't robots, of course Captains have an effect on teams in sport. They're the closest thing on the pitch to the coach tactically, at least that's what their meant to represent and then there's all the intangibles like leadership, team harmony, cohesion, morale etc that their meant to have the biggest influence on and that would contribute to how players go into each matchday.

They're not the only ones that have an impact of course, other players (usually vets) too have an affect, and having a leadership group like Wolves do make sense...except the focal point is Max for some reason who's got no evidence behind him of showing any leadership qualities out there whatsoever (at training who knows).

Then you get to the questionable form and whether he should now be dropped. What does that do to squad dynamics?

 

[Tredman]

Max running away as per usual

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

 

[Alan]

I’m not sure I can dare to watch.

 

[Dukinfield]

Kill me before I watch this, please.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

That is a yank Machin with a shaved yed.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's not Alan then?

 

[Quirkafleeg]

It's not Alan then?

Think Alan has hair..