Fulham 2-0 verdict thread

[t3ch]

yesterday's game was a tough watch

first page is indicating I shouldn't bother reading the rest of the thread... not been great for a few games now, hopefully nuno is able to sort it out.

 

[sycophantia]

Thank god for a reasoned post from DW, if you only read one on this thread, then read this one. Yes there are concerns, yes we need to address the problems, but we seem to have gone from potential Euro hopefuls to playoff has beens in about 4 weeks according to some....almost up to pant shitting

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

Thank god for a reasoned post from DW, if you only read one on this thread, then read this one. Yes there are concerns, yes we need to address the problems, but we seem to have gone from potential Euro hopefuls to playoff has beens in about 4 weeks according to some....almost up to pant shitting

I have seen no one suggest we have become play off no hopers

 

[sycophantia]

I have seen no one suggest we have become play off no hopers

I didn't say no hopers, I said has beens, as in only good enough to make the playoffs (might not have been on this forum tbf), but the real point is football fans (including me) swing from suicidal pessimists to hopeless optimists at the blink of an eye and DW's piece hits the nail firmly on the head...only my opinion and of course on an open forum everyone is fully justified in theirs.........however wildly over the top it is.

 

[Alan]

Have to say I find it a little odd that finding yesterday's performance unacceptable is somehow unreasonable.

Again, I'm not going to sit here and say we'll slip out of first place, much less into the playoffs, but that was so far below the standards we should be setting that there absolutely must be a sense of urgency to put things right.

 

[Keef]

I have seen no one suggest we have become play off no hopers

You don't follow wolves sites on Facebook then,people on there were having Chernobyl sized meltdowns,and the pant wetting was similar to if you'd thrown them in the Clyde,I ended up telling loads to wind their necks in and shut the fuck up or go support someone else

 

[WolfmanOz]

DW to the rescue with his piece being rational and even-handed.

Having watched the game (replay) yesterday, it was certainly Wolves poorest performance of the season IMHO (well from the point that Fulham scored their first goal) with a number of players well off their best; but the hysterical reaction from a number of our “fans” just beggars belief.

As a few others have said, I think it’s more of a follow-up reaction to Norwich’s late late equalizer. We squeeze a win in that game, and I’m sure the loss at Craven Cottage is put into more perspective.

 

[slink]

DW to the rescue with his piece being rational and even-handed.

Having watched the game (replay) yesterday, it was certainly Wolves poorest performance of the season IMHO (well from the point that Fulham scored their first goal) with a number of players well off their best; but the hysterical reaction from a number of our “fans” just beggars belief.

As a few others have said, I think it’s more of a follow-up reaction to Norwich’s late late equalizer. We squeeze a win in that game, and I’m sure the loss at Craven Cottage is put into more perspective.

Agree that most are reacting because we conceded late on and have lost the next game but several on this forum have given other reasons and are still met with just got to get on with it or Nuno will sort it well he has to because for me he's the problem. We've gone away from what we are good at and are trying things we wouldn't which shows that the mentality of the manager and the squad has changed.

We've spent 95% of the season playing 3-4-3 yet in the last 3 games have changed to 3-3-3-1 against Preston having just equalised with them down to 10, it didn't work. We changed to a version of 3-5-2 against Norwich and it didn't work and yesterday we changed to a sort of 4-4-2 which didn't work. Now within all of those system changes we have had players playing in strange positions and not really suiting what we want to do and i'd love to know why really. If we get back to what we are good at and what we know we will still win the league, if we don't then 2nd could become a real possibility and then you have to deal with the disappointment of throwing the title away which will affect them.

Hopefully this next week gives them a chance to regain belief that our way is the way we need and that if we stick to it then the league is ours.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

Maybe if we had not concede at the end.of tbe Norwich game.
People.would be less critical but then.we would have had 4 points from 9 and still be 8.clear.

I am not moaning about the result I am moaning about the Performance and still would have been irrespective.
However the defeat yesterday would have been.less important if we had won Tuesday the result would have left us 8.points (9 with GD) clear and.not 6

 

[jd1981]

Think it’s fair to say had we have held on against Norwich there wouldn’t have been as much of a reaction. Think the gap to 3rd has been above 10 points since new year.
Any run of consistency by us now and it’s all over, ie win 4 draw 2.
As we’ve said 01/02 is still in the back of a lot of people’s minds even tho there’s zero correlation between the two sides.
I’ve no doubt the players and Nuno will be angry with how this week has unfolded and desperate for a reaction on Saturday.

 

[Penk Wolf]

If we only win half our games, Villa will need 2.42 PPG to overtake us, their current form is only 2.17 PPG.

 

[jd1981]

5 wins 3 draws and 4 defeats puts us on 91 points. Still got to play 7 of the current bottom 8 plus Leeds who aren’t amazing.

 

[Norman Deeley]

Just looked at remaining fixtures for Cardiff and Wolves. Even at my most optimistic for Cardiff and most pessimistic for Wolves I have them on 94 points and us finishing on 97

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I looked at the fixtures earlier too. The most optimistic I could get for Cardiff was 93 and Villa 90. The chances of both teams actually ending the season on a run that good are incredibly slim especially as both teams are already having a great run of form.

Villa won't catch us even if they beat us. I am a little bit worried about Cardiff pipping us to the title but that would be a minor irritation in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Norman Deeley]

Some cracking ratings from Tim II on the Fulham game: Willy Boly gets 5/10 and Matt Doherty gets 6/10. Must get the TV fixed as clearly it is wonky...

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Some cracking ratings from Tim II on the Fulham game: Willy Boly gets 5/10 and Matt Doherty gets 6/10. Must get the TV fixed as clearly it is wonky...

That is ridiculous, i wonder why he doesn't like Boly? I wondered for a minute if it was because of his body language being somewhere languid, then i remembered he likes Doherty, so it certainly can't be that.

 

[Tony Towner]

That is ridiculous, i wonder why he doesn't like Boly? I wondered for a minute if it was because of his body language being somewhere languid, then i remembered he likes Doherty, so it certainly can't be that.

In fairness he's praised Boly highly all season. It's only the last month or so he's become critical and it's true like many he's dropped from his imperious previous form. Perhaps he's judging him by his previous standards?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

In fairness he's praised Boly highly all season

Has he? I'm sure i've been surprised by his rating of Boly a few times.

 

[Banjo]

I thought Boly was one of the few positives on Saturday. He still looks like he'd be much more comfortable on the right side of the three, but otherwise he looked as commanding as ever. We lost the game in the centre of the park. N'Diaye tried and tried, but just couldn't do what was needed from him. I know Saiss was also poor, but I can see why Alf came off first out of the two of them - he just doesn't have the range of passing that our 'Plan A' requires from our central midfielders.

Talking of our 'Plan A' - I think it's a testament to how well we have imposed our game-plan this season that this was one of the first times that it became clear that our usual way of playing just wasn't working - attributable to a large part to Neves' absence against a very good footballing side in Fulham. I don't mind the fact that Jota was rested - Nuno couldn't have accounted for Costa and Bonatini looking way off the pace - but I do think Nuno should have changed things at half time as it was clear that we had lost the midfield battle. Part of the problem was only having MGW to turn to. I'd have been tempted to put Coady into CM and move Boly into the middle of a back 4 a bit earlier on - we were creating next to nothing.

Let's see how we manage to do with another 7 days' planning without Neves.

 

[Tony Towner]

Has he? I'm sure i've been surprised by his rating of Boly a few times.

I'm not going to trawl through match ratings, but here last month he describes him as one of our star performers.

https://www.expressandstar.com/spor...olves-plan-to-make-willy-boly-deal-permanent/