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While I risk the accusation of being racist, it has to be said that the amount of immigration that our country has had to put up with in the last 10 years is staggering – absolute mind-boggling stupidity. The awful Labour party (which is supposed to represent the British workers) has swamped our country with immigrants from all over the world. What we are witnessing is the systemic destruction of our once proud country. We have figures this week that two thirds of all babies born in London have foreign parents. In some parts of the East End of London, 81% of all births are to migrants. In Leicester, 44% of school pupils are white. In years to come English will be the secondary language of Great Britain. How has this happened? I recorded a programme yesterday for The One Show when I visited my old house in Charlton. The lovely shops at the end of the road are now mostly boarded up, apart from the Chinese chip shop and the typical Pakistani corner shop. The place was covered in graffiti and filth, and there were bars, locks, chains and shutters on everything that could be stolen or broken. It never used to be like that – what’s happened?

Where are all the British people? Black, white and brown, it doesn’t matter – where are they? All I seem to meet are people who have English as their second language. What on earth was going through the Labour Party’s mind when they invited all these people? There are still some 600,000 immigrants a year coming through our country, mostly from Africa and Asia. This is madness. And to put the cherry on the cake, we have just sent £220 million to the terrorist capital of the world, Somalia…what the fuck for? Surely there’s no one there!

Lifted verbatim from Jim Davidson's blog. Now I don't know about you, but if I ever started making serious posts on matters of race that made me sound a bit like Jim Davidson, I'd be very quickly reassessing my thoughts and attitude.
 
Stewart Leee summed it up well on his TV show last week.

Oh and I always think of his "duality of meaning" line whenever anyone mentions Jim Davidson. Makes me laugh every time.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
While I risk the accusation of being racist, it has to be said that the amount of immigration that our country has had to put up with in the last 10 years is staggering – absolute mind-boggling stupidity. The awful Labour party (which is supposed to represent the British workers) has swamped our country with immigrants from all over the world. What we are witnessing is the systemic destruction of our once proud country. We have figures this week that two thirds of all babies born in London have foreign parents. In some parts of the East End of London, 81% of all births are to migrants. In Leicester, 44% of school pupils are white. In years to come English will be the secondary language of Great Britain. How has this happened? I recorded a programme yesterday for The One Show when I visited my old house in Charlton. The lovely shops at the end of the road are now mostly boarded up, apart from the Chinese chip shop and the typical Pakistani corner shop. The place was covered in graffiti and filth, and there were bars, locks, chains and shutters on everything that could be stolen or broken. It never used to be like that – what’s happened?

Where are all the British people? Black, white and brown, it doesn’t matter – where are they? All I seem to meet are people who have English as their second language. What on earth was going through the Labour Party’s mind when they invited all these people? There are still some 600,000 immigrants a year coming through our country, mostly from Africa and Asia. This is madness. And to put the cherry on the cake, we have just sent £220 million to the terrorist capital of the world, Somalia…what the $#@! for? Surely there’s no one there!

Lifted verbatim from Jim Davidson's blog. Now I don't know about you, but if I ever started making serious posts on matters of race that made me sound a bit like Jim Davidson, I'd be very quickly reassessing my thoughts and attitude.
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Why is that, Che ?
 
Because Jim Davidson is a racist shitehawk. So by extension if what you say scarily mirrors his views, wouldn't you be concerned that in turn, people saw you as a racist shitehawk?

Maybe you don't care what people think but I'd find that rather hard to believe.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Because Jim Davidson is a racist $#@!ehawk. So by extension if what you say scarily mirrors his views, wouldn't you be concerned that in turn, people saw you as a racist $#@!ehawk?

Maybe you don't care what people think but I'd find that rather hard to believe.
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It depends who saw me that way, but if the 'usual suspects' on this forum see me that way, then I honestly don't mind at all.

Some of what he said is over the top but some of it will resonate with people who have seen the place where they grew up, change beyond all recognition. You can't expect everyone to be happy about that can you ? Particularly the people who are 50 + - (Excluding Vince Cable and his Disciples).

You are obviously happy with the way things are 'shaping up', many others are not so happy. But when people like David Blunkett, talking about his own City, start warning us of the problems that lie ahead, then surely we have to sit up and take notice ? If Farage or a Tory MP had made the same comments as Blunkett, 'the usual suspects' on here would have dismissed them as Racists who were just scaremongering.

Interesting that some on here resort to sycophantic gestures and comments as a way of avoiding any discussion on the subject. Perhaps this is to appease peer pressure and allows them to pretend that everything in the garden is Rosy ?

Then again, it probably is in places like Bilbrook and Pattingham.
 
You do put an awful lot of stock in what David Blunkett says, don't you? One of the most right-wing home secretaries I can remember - not sure why you think his views are particularly surprising or noteworthy.
 
I grew up in a house on the old five ways in Birmingham, it's now a massive traffic island and i'm not at all surprised, as it was a set of traffic lights before, and hardly suitable as a main entry point into the city. We then moved into Ladywood, that's all flats and maisonettes now. Again No Surprise.

Both houses had toilets about 70 metres away and no bathrooms, who the hell wants to go back to that?

I know Jim Davidson well, and he's been a racist since i knew him in the 80's, but looking at his opening line in the quote from DW above, i guess KTEC is still writing his blogs for him.

P.S. I always wanted to be a usual suspect.
 
keeptheexitsclear said:
It depends who saw me that way, but if the 'usual suspects' on this forum see me that way, then I honestly don't mind at all.

Some of what he said is over the top but some of it will resonate with people who have seen the place where they grew up, change beyond all recognition. You can't expect everyone to be happy about that can you ? Particularly the people who are 50 + - (Excluding Vince Cable and his Disciples).

You are obviously happy with the way things are 'shaping up', many others are not so happy. But when people like David Blunkett, talking about his own City, start warning us of the problems that lie ahead, then surely we have to sit up and take notice ? If Farage or a Tory MP had made the same comments as Blunkett, 'the usual suspects' on here would have dismissed them as Racists who were just scaremongering.

Interesting that some on here resort to sycophantic gestures and comments as a way of avoiding any discussion on the subject. Perhaps this is to appease peer pressure and allows them to pretend that everything in the garden is Rosy ?

Then again, it probably is in places like Bilbrook and Pattingham.
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Who?
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/elections/euro/09/html/ukregion_37.stm

In the last Euro Elections in 2009, in the West Midlands, just under one in five voted for UKIP. This figure is sure to increase in May according to the polls.

That figure from 2009, of one in five, does seem rather disproportionate on this lovely forum ?

Be interesting to put a survey on the main Wolves board, (which won't be allowed of course), to see how many on there would consider voting for UKIP. Also, regardless of their political persuasion, it may encourage a few more people on the political forum ?
 
So Long Architect said:
You do put an awful lot of stock in what David Blunkett says, don't you? One of the most right-wing home secretaries I can remember - not sure why you think his views are particularly surprising or noteworthy.
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To make it noteworthy, would it have to come from someone in The Socialist Workers Party ??
 
The Saturday Boy said:
No. You made the comment. You answer it. How does it smack of elitism?
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Well on the one hand we have you as a 'Champion of Multiculturalism and Inclusiveness', then somewhat hypocritically, you decide to send your kids to a Religious school.
Religious schools do tend to close their doors to an awful lot of kids that don't meet their 'criteria'.
A criteria that is not imposed on the vast majority of non-religious schools.

What's up ? Those schools not good enough for you then ?

Dave Cameron and the Old Etonians would be proud of you !!
 
keeptheexitsclear said:
Be interesting to put a survey on the main Wolves board, (which won't be allowed of course), to see how many on there would consider voting for UKIP. Also, regardless of their political persuasion, it may encourage a few more people on the political forum ?
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Why would it not be allowed? Start it yourself if you like.
 
keeptheexitsclear said:
Well on the one hand we have you as a 'Champion of Multiculturalism and Inclusiveness', then somewhat hypocritically, you decide to send your kids to a Religious school.
Religious schools do tend to close their doors to an awful lot of kids that don't meet their 'criteria'.
A criteria that is not imposed on the vast majority of non-religious schools.

What's up ? Those schools not good enough for you then ?

Dave Cameron and the Old Etonians would be proud of you !!
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the Squeezelets went to a Catholic primary school. They aren't Catholic. It was the local school to them. Good school, and they enjoyed their time there.

Now elitism in schools would be more like me. I did my secondary education in Buckinghamshire, that still had selection (in fact it still does I think). I went to a grammar school. While there are criteria to get into certain schools within Wolverhampton for sure, we don't have anything as brutally selective as the 11 or 12 plus.
 
I had to sit an entrance exam to get into grammar school, I don't that's necessarily a problem in itself.
 
lemonjelly said:
keeptheexitsclear said:
It depends who saw me that way, but if the 'usual suspects' on this forum see me that way, then I honestly don't mind at all.

Some of what he said is over the top but some of it will resonate with people who have seen the place where they grew up, change beyond all recognition. You can't expect everyone to be happy about that can you ? Particularly the people who are 50 + - (Excluding Vince Cable and his Disciples).

You are obviously happy with the way things are 'shaping up', many others are not so happy. But when people like David Blunkett, talking about his own City, start warning us of the problems that lie ahead, then surely we have to sit up and take notice ? If Farage or a Tory MP had made the same comments as Blunkett, 'the usual suspects' on here would have dismissed them as Racists who were just scaremongering.

Interesting that some on here resort to sycophantic gestures and comments as a way of avoiding any discussion on the subject. Perhaps this is to appease peer pressure and allows them to pretend that everything in the garden is Rosy ?

Then again, it probably is in places like Bilbrook and Pattingham.
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Who?
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Again, who? (after noting that you again dodged the question)
 
Faith schools have been a central part of this country's education provision for years. Your initial comment was that it made them "different" and I assume you were actually referring to Islamic schools. We are a predominately Christian country so it is hardly surprising that there are a large number of faith schools of that type given that education is a rather basic part of any civilised society.

Because we have faith schools in this country already I see no problem with other faith schools setting up for other religions as long as they provide a good standard of education. Many millions of children attend CofE schools, many others attend Catholic schools and have done for generations. Having faith is a choice, for many a very important choice and one which guides their lives and their decisions. Who am I, probably an atheist, or determine what they should and should not believe.

I didn't choose to go to a faith school, that choice was made for me. I didn't feel any different. My children didn't choose to go to a faith school, that choice was made for them. It doesn't make them different.

Your obnoxious, insulting, ignorant and frankly offensive comments are indicative of your general standard of debate. Your opinions, although that is being generous, are superficial, ill-informed and with very little merit. At the slightest hint of opposition you launch into personal attacks and name calling.

It isn't me who is the hypocrite.

My wife, a woman of faith, wanted our children to be educated in a faith school. I respect her beliefs, her faith and her decisions because that is what decent people do. They are well educated, cared for pastorally and have a good set of friends. I think that's a decent outcome for my children and one any decent parent would aspire to.

Inclusiveness does not mean all doing the same thing, in he same place and with everyone else. You narrow minded view on the world is not one I care to share, have empathy with or promote. You can dress your views up anyway you like but when you mange to offend so many people from a wide range of political opinion maybe it is time for you to take a step back and consider whether the problem is you.

In short. Up yours.
 
You couldn't get much more politically polarised than myself and TSB, but you managed to bring us together on a political thread. Amazing scenes!
 
Benicio Del Toro in The Usual Suspects?
 
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