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[Johnny75]

In a sport with subjective decisions required, how the hell can having multiple people involved in the decisions be a good idea?

Other sports make it work.

 

[Tony Towner]

Johnny Phillips said the refs he speaks to hate doing VAR as it's not proper refereeing.

So if PGMOL swallow their pride there wouldn't be much push back from the refs themselves to it being done independently

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

For me - VAR's job should be to flag up that the ref might have made an error with his initial real-time call. There's something at least worth looking at. Don't make the decision for him, tell him he may want to have a look, specify what it is he needs to look at, then he can make his own mind up with replays and additional angles. Makes it a quick turnaround to the ref going to the monitor, then we don't have the absurd charade we have now where he's looking and wasting more time but we know that 99% of the time he'll do as he's told.

Attwell deciding it is a foul by Semedo despite all evidence to the contrary and so Salisbury never gets another view of it...well that's just ridiculous, isn't it.

 

[fansagainstvar]

Other sports make it work.

So?

Football is a different sport. Sin bins work in other sports, shall we have that too?

Oh, we're having that as well aren't we. Might as well get players to fall over using diving boards, working great for the sport of diving. Why wouldn't it work in football!

 

[darlowolf64]

It's okay, we already have a "sin-bin" in operation for referees... It's called The Championship

 

[BillyDee]

Sin bins work in other sports, shall we have that too?

Sin bins to be trialled in professional football as part of new IFAB law proposals

At its Annual Business Meeting (ABM) held in London on Tuesday, IFAB focused on measures to improve participant behaviour in football and increase respect for match officials; it was agreed sin bins for dissent and specific tactical offences should be trialled at higher levels

www.skysports.com

 

[Alan]

"Sin bin" can get in the bin.

 

[Johnny75]

So?

Football is a different sport. Sin bins work in other sports, shall we have that too?

Oh, we're having that as well aren't we. Might as well get players to fall over using diving boards, working great for the sport of diving. Why wouldn't it work in football!

You were bitter when the back pass rule was got rid of weren't you?

And I imagine you were incandescent when they brought in 5 subs.

Do you think tackling from behind is ok too?

And all that fancydan science the folks in the back room is probably a load of bollocks and there's no need for it in your view as well?

Footballs should still be made from leather and boots should have hobnails for stuffs?

 

[Tony Towner]

"Sin bin" can get in the bin.

As can the only the captain can talk to the ref bollocks. Rugby Union comparisons have always irked me when it comes to the relationship with refs, on this one the game is much more compact in terms of where the players are on the pitch, so the captain can be there in a few seconds. Football doesn't work like that

 

[fansagainstvar]

You were bitter when the back pass rule was got rid of weren't you?

And I imagine you were incandescent when they brought in 5 subs.

Do you think tackling from behind is ok too?

And all that fancydan science the folks in the back room is probably a load of bollocks and there's no need for it in your view as well?

Footballs should still be made from leather and boots should have hobnails for stuffs?

If you want to paint me as a luddite because your arguments in favour of VAR are indefensible, fine.

Question One: I am in favour of the backpass rule.
Statement Two: If you can't see 5 subs was brought in to benefit the big teams with bigger squads, that's on you.
Question Three: Depends what the referee who is in charge of the game thinks
Question Four: There is an obvious need for coaching and management which is why it's been in the game for 100+ years.
Question Five: Modern footballs are mostly fine. Apart from that stupid "Jabulani"

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

As can the only the captain can talk to the ref bollocks. Rugby Union comparisons have always irked me when it comes to the relationship with refs, on this one the game is much more compact in terms of where the players are on the pitch, so the captain can be there in a few seconds. Football doesn't work like that

Just have a clear dividing line on conduct. You want to talk to the referee reasonably, on you go. You abuse him like Lewis Dunk did on Saturday vs Forest, have the rest of the afternoon off.

 

[Boozad]

fancydan

Took me a while to figure out how to pronounce this.

 

[Alan]

As can the only the captain can talk to the ref bollocks. Rugby Union comparisons have always irked me when it comes to the relationship with refs, on this one the game is much more compact in terms of where the players are on the pitch, so the captain can be there in a few seconds. Football doesn't work like that

I mean the term (Why does it need to rhyme?? So sickeningly cutesy), but also the application of it in football would be something I would hate.

There's something so vindicating about the way a red card can really fuck up a side's whole day.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Just look how quick that automated offside call is vs Icardi. Probably not even 30 seconds.

Works so much better.

 

[sycophantia]

Not sure a sin bin would make that much difference in football, losing a player for 15 minutes in Rugby makes much bigger difference imo. Of course they could make the sin bin punishment 30-45 minutes I suppose.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

Not sure a sin bin would make that much difference in football, losing a player for 15 minutes in Rugby makes much bigger difference imo. Of course they could make the sin bin punishment 30-45 minutes I suppose.

Yep, nothing but more time wasting & 10 men behind the ball whilst guilty man is in the bin.

 

[Bigbadwulf07]

at least the sin bin punishment would be in game giving an advantage to the offended team and not giving an advantage to a rival team either next game or weeks down the line. Had Vinicius been sent off in the 88th minute it would usually be unlikely to give much advantage to Wolves with 2 mins normal time remaining but next opponent would face a lesser player

 

[The Bear]

Sin bins would just mean we lose a player for 10 mins for a nothing challenge that didn't deserve a yellow.

 

[PuntsWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1729827382842810452

Highlighting the issue with the system again. Head VAR has made a dreadful call. The assistant has just agreed as they are just nodding dogs (listen to their role in all the audio of the shockers) no backbone or conviction to just disagree. Then the ref has gone and had a look and he’s just gone along with it aswell as it's ingrained in them that going over to monitor = mistake, rather than actually looking at it and going “no I think this is super harsh/wrong”. Three people have made an error there and 2 of them likely because of the system of nodding along. Really shouldn’t be this bad.

 

[sycophantia]

Sin bins would just mean we lose a player for 10 mins for a nothing challenge that didn't deserve a yellow.

I'd assume it would be for stuff like dissent, it's a shit idea in football.
The officials just need to be better on field and VAR just needs to be applied properly, it shouldn't be that difficult.....I'm not holding my breath though.