FA Cup: Wolves 2-1 Man Utd - Verdict thread

[PuntsWolf]

Its like the annoying ones where the striker is running through but thinks he’s offside so stops but then sees the lineman’s hasn’t flagged so runs again, only for 20 yards later the linesman flags and everyone is the stadium is angry.

 

[Stan Hullis]

Rashford was offside on Saturday but the linesman kept his flag down, I wonder if this was down to the VAR directive or if he just missed it.

If Man Utd had gone onto score from the resulting free kick that was won them I'm assuming the goal would have stood despite it arising from an offside situation?

 

[Kenny]

Rashford was offside on Saturday but the linesman kept his flag down, I wonder if this was down to the VAR directive or if he just missed it.

If Man Utd had gone onto score from the resulting free kick that was won them I'm assuming the goal would have stood despite it arising from an offside situation?

He was going to flag so I guess he was doing the VAR thing. Then from the free kick he missed the Utd player getting his head to it and gave Utd the throw in when it went out

 

[Tom Hark]

He was going to flag so I guess he was doing the VAR thing. Then from the free kick he missed the Utd player getting his head to it and gave Utd the throw in when it went out

But Utd gained an advantage (FK in a good position) after an infringement. That can't be right, surely. Linesman should be instructed to flag a suspected offside in that situation and VAR should take the play back for a Wolves FK.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

But Utd gained an advantage (FK in a good position) after an infringement. That can't be right, surely. Linesman should be instructed to flag a suspected offside in that situation and VAR should take the play back for a Wolves FK.

Not sure whether this is a regulation thing (the rules say you can only invoke VAR if the ball actually goes in during the same phase of play) or a communication thing (the lino should have been getting on the mic to the ref and saying "hang on, I was probably going to flag Rashford there but was waiting to see what happened. Can we check it because if he's off, it's no free kick")

 

[PuntsWolf]

Not sure whether this is a regulation thing (the rules say you can only invoke VAR if the ball actually goes in during the same phase of play) or a communication thing (the lino should have been getting on the mic to the ref and saying "hang on, I was probably going to flag Rashford there but was waiting to see what happened. Can we check it because if he's off, it's no free kick")

Live I thought the Lino just missed it. Then watching back on TV it looked like one of those where the rules are stupid. As soon as Saiss fucked it up he was “onside” as second phase from a deliberate play by a defender. Although the only reason he messed it up was because he was stretching to intercept the ball through to Rashford.

Edit - plus it shouldn’t have been a VAR debatable one as he was miles off

 

[Kenny]

I would say he was just shit. I mean from that free kick he see's a player in a red top jump and flick the ball with his head and when it goes out he decides yeah that's a throw in to the team in red.

 

[jd1981]

some Real Var teething problems on Saturday, surely Atkinson should have had access to a monitor to review his own decisions instead of someone else doing it for him especially when it comes to interpretation with the red card.
Bit surreal on Saturday stood there waiting for the call to be made.

 

[Tom Hark]

Not sure whether this is a regulation thing (the rules say you can only invoke VAR if the ball actually goes in during the same phase of play) or a communication thing (the lino should have been getting on the mic to the ref and saying "hang on, I was probably going to flag Rashford there but was waiting to see what happened. Can we check it because if he's off, it's no free kick")

It's a common-sense thing. Let's hope it makes it into the regulations one day. I'm sure there will be tweaks as flaws are exposed net season.

 

[PuntsWolf]

some Real Var teething problems on Saturday, surely Atkinson should have had access to a monitor to review his own decisions instead of someone else doing it for him especially when it comes to interpretation with the red card.
Bit surreal on Saturday stood there waiting for the call to be made.

That’s the way they’ve decided to do it in England. The idea is that it’s quicker than waiting for the ref to run to the touchline etc. Bit like the 3rd umpire makes the call in cricket (completely different I know), they’ve decided the VAR has all the power.

 

[The Bear]

With the Rashford offside, once it was clear he wasn't scoring from that offside opportunity the lino should have raised his flag and the play been brought back. The ref blew for a FK pretty quick so at that point the flag should have gone up and the ref then indicated a FK the other way for the offside.

 

[Jinky]

There are indeed too many grey areas with the offside rule, as it stands. Remember how many pundits and so called experts that thought Jota was miles offside when he scored the winner v Leicester a few weeks back?

To me, when the ball was passed to him, he was onside, but their argument was that he was offside by a mile when the move began, and he curved his run back around when we got the ball in the channels. They said this gave Jota a huge advantage over the defenders as they couldn't get back in time.

What's the rule on that?

 

[YoungWolf]

That's happened for a long time now (but it is a funny one). I remember Drogba used to stand deliberately a good ten yards or so offside to gain an advantage whenChelsea attacked down the wing.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Was it Henry that used to stand a couple yards offside a lot of the time so defenders would just ignore him then couple of steps to get back onside when they weren't looking and he'd have himself a free run onto a through ball as no-one bothered to track the player they'd all assumed was still offside?

 

[Kenny]

van Nistelrooy did that a lot. All around the time the offside rules were changing a lot regarding interfering with play

 

[Tredman]

Run Forest run

https://twitter.com/daveazzopardi/status/1107592264749076481?s=19

 

[Parkins left foot]

Run Forest run

https://twitter.com/daveazzopardi/status/1107592264749076481?s=19

Weird running style :icon_lol:

Effective though!

 

[lemonjelly]

He's the anti james henry. henry tried really hard to run fast, and as a result looked a bit odd, but was still slow as fuck.
Dendoncker doesn't look like he's trying that hard, but has an odd gait. But as on that clip, he shifts!

 

[Parkins left foot]

Dendoncker doesn't look like he's trying that hard, but has an odd gait. But as on that clip, he shifts!

Done that a number of times since he came into the side - gives us another option in the area

 

[Tony Towner]

He runs like Michael Johnson - the American athlete as opposed to the junkie City player