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Didn’t anticipate the comment would illicit so much response tbh!
That's how I felt when I logged in 2 days later and saw the fallout to my David Moyes comment 😂

Re; Adama. We'll always have that Man City away performance. Last game I ever got to see with my dad and those memories will stay with me forever. Also, Adama seems like a top bloke too, so difficult to dislike him.
 
For me Adama isn't a player that falls into the hate section of our ex players. Just hugely frustrating most of the time.

The Spurs game at home showed what teams thought of him though. Never seen a team have their players take it in turns to be the one to foul him. Even had Kane back in the full back spot to pick up a yellow for cutting him in half.
 
He was an in the flesh YouTube compilation some stuff he did you kind of thought how the hell has he done that. Two that stand out for me were a piece of skill right on the touchline on the opening day of 21/22 at Sheff Utd and the other was the assist for Donk Vs West Ham when we lost 3-2.

Many times though the Sheff Utd moments were inconsequential in terms of actual G/A just individual brilliance so ultimately you're a winger with limited goal involvements.

He rattled plenty of teams though, Spurs, Bournemouth in lockdown etc.
 
There is an unbelievable 20 seconds or so v Liverpool at home too (?) he then proceeds to smash it out of play.

A number of nearly moments too, that run v Villa would have been one of the best Wolves goals ever, but he slammed it into Martinez's chest.

There was also a lot of appalling finishes after he'd put it on a plate for people. Like Donk header v Arsenal that fell to I think Neto instead, so Donk gets the assist instead of Adama who did all the work.

His assists v City at home for Raul (where he bodied Mendy) and again for Raul against Liverpool were fucking outstanding.
 
I think a lot of attacking players suffer under Nuno, so I wouldn't use numbers to dismiss Adama.

Even now, Hudson-Odoi seems to me like he is having a good season, and he has two goals and two assists. It's worse than Guedes in almost 3x the minutes played.

I remember when there was a lot of hype about Neto and debating how good he was, and people would point out that average players like Matheus Pereira and Jack Harrison would have double the goal contributions he had (I think it was the 19/20 season)

We all know what Adama couldn't do (although I do think his 'bad' crossing is overstated) but what he could do made him one of the most exciting players I've ever seen at Wolves and someone I would genuinely enjoy watching. He could beat players with ease and that's one of the hardest things to do in the game.
 
I’ve played with and against players that have had good professional careers and I have never really worked out why some did and others didn’t.
Years ago dedication and application seemed to be the common denominator but latterly that appears to play a lesser part with players with questionable attitude and hearts the size of a pea often ‘making it’.
If you’re good enough you’ll always be good enough but I suppose I do still like a Dan Burn (referencing the other thread) who appears to have got where he got on shear attitude alone.
Played many a Game, with Phil Gee, went on to play for Derby County.
Also played many a game with Mark Sparrock, who was at Wolves with Andy Gray.

Phil was quick and had an eye for goal, he had a fantastic bit of Luck thanks to Steve Essex, and David Nish. He had application by the truck load

It's the same now
You can have all the talent in the world, but you need extra it's not enough to just be talented you need a massive Heart, huge Self Belief and a massive work ethic.
Just getting that first trainee at 16 takes work that not many people kmow about.

Imagine being at Work from the age of 6, and every week someone turns up for 6 weeks to prove they are better than you and if they do your let go, that is what happens every week in academies right through the world.

even then at 17/18/19 etc you have to dedicate your life

Mark on the other hand was a close friend of mine, he had all the talent in the world, and we often joked if he had 50% my application and work rate, or I had 50% of his talent we would have made it.
He would go out on the piss turn up.late for training, put 50/60% in training and never played higher than West Mids.

Someone at Wolves Academy once told me when I was Scouting it's 60% Talent 30% application and 10% luck

Fucking hell, dont talk to your missus whilst trying to type on here as well as listen to a Masonic, well Chapter lecture, whilst trying to decide if I am ready to go for Knights Templar.

I struggle doing 1 thing at a Time
 
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For me Adama isn't a player that falls into the hate section of our ex players. Just hugely frustrating most of the time.

The Spurs game at home showed what teams thought of him though. Never seen a team have their players take it in turns to be the one to foul him. Even had Kane back in the full back spot to pick up a yellow for cutting him in half.

I don't think anyone hates him (I don't really miss him though), just the never ending 'what ifs' with him don't make any sense. He is what he is which is why his English career has been at Villa (while they were worse than they'd been for nearly 30 years), Middlesbrough, Wolves and Fulham.

You know what the deal is, there is no what if.
 
Played many a Game, with Phil Gee, went on to play for Derby County.
Also played many a game with Mark Sparrock, who was at Wolves with Andy Gray.

Phil was quick and had an eye for goal, he had a fantastic bit of Luck thanks to Steve Essex, and David Nish. He had application by the truck load

It's the same now
You can have all the talent in the world, but you need extra it's not enough to just be talented you need a massive Heart, huge Self Belief and a massive work ethic.
Just getting that first trainee at 16 takes work that not many people kmow about.

Imagine being at Work from the age of 6, and every week someone turns up for 6 weeks to prove they are better than you and if they do your let go, that is what happens every week in academies right through the world.

even then at 17/18/19 etc you have to dedicate your life

Mark on the other hand was a close friend of mine, he had all the talent in the world, and we often joked if he had 50% my application and work rate, or I had 50% of his talent we would have made it.
He would go out on the piss turn up.late for training, put 50/60% in training and never played higher than West Mids.

Someone at Wolves Academy once told me when I was Scouting it's 60% Talent 30% application and 10% luck

Fucking hell, dont talk to your missus whilst trying to type on here as well as listen to a Masonic, well Chapter lecture, whilst trying to decide if I am ready to go for Knights Templar.

I struggle doing 1 thing at a Time
This post took me on a journey I was not expecting. Send it to the Baftas.
 
Never hated Traore but he did used to piss me off, particularly in his first season. Never wanted him off Middlesbrough where his numbers were also pretty poor. Used to stand on the touchline with no movement, think Nuno tried him as a striker paired with Jimenez and at right wing-back and he wasn't any good, there was at least Liverpool at home and Brighton away he looked really out of place in the league. Improved enough to then have his purple patch and after then levelled out and is the same as he is right now.

His numbers have been poor everywhere, that's just part of his game. I agree that there's no what-if. The weird thing is the goals he does score are usually pretty good. Plus he can still only do about one kind of cross (beat the full-back, run to the byline, lofted cross to the back post...) to varying success. Appears to be a decent bloke, don't mind him but he's no more than an average winger. I think Iwobi is better at Fulham and many believe he's terrible.
 
Traore has the raw attributes to be a world class player, but as well know if he had that final mebbe 2 attributes, we would never have seen him at Molineux.

He needs that final decision making, Thats the main difference between top players and lower players, he also needs the ability to slow down when he makes that final decision.

Its something Nuno worked with him on, slowing down being better at deciding what to do.
Its something he has bever mastered, and now he is a bit part player at Fulham
 
Christ it’s like the defenders have their button mixed up on FIFA
 
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