Coronavirus

[Deutsch Wolf]

See, this is what I was on about last night.

Q: Will you take more action to help low-income households. Statutory sick pay is less than £100 a week?

Johnson claims he is doing a lot already. The living wage is being lifted by a huge amount.

No. You can't just shout a slogan, this isn't PMQs. That's a specific, direct question about people who are already struggling to a point (there are millions of them) and could easily end up even worse off very soon. What are you going to do now, not calling back to some pledge that has nothing to do with this.

He's no leader at all. As I say, I know he personally doesn't have all the answers and nothing is going to completely fix this in the short term. But this isn't good enough.

 

[PuntsWolf]

If we (the government) already don’t have enough money to pay the people who need it, and the NHS is now spending more money than usual, how would we possibly be able to pay the people/companies who don’t normally get paid in the event of closures?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

They do have the money.

It's about choices.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Johnson was a mess. However, this Trump news conference make him look like Churchill.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

France is taking a slightly different approach. Macron has told the nation he wants no company to be exposed to the risk of collapse as a result of the pandemic. He has also said gas, electricity and water bills are to be suspended – as are rents – and the state will guarantee companies’ loans with a €300bn package.

The French president, Emmanuel Macron, is telling the nation people’s movements will be severely limited, saying those who have ignored the government’s advice to isolate have put the health of other people at risk. He has ordered citizens to stay in their homes and only come out where it’s absolutely necessary.

Macron says all companies must now take steps to ensure employees can work from home. And he calls off a second round of municipal elections.

Now it's quite easy to see the difference in messaging.

Communication here is absolutely key and we're making a right Horlicks of it. Every time Fat Al comes out with his two boffin pals it's as if they've not spoken to each other in advance of starting the conference, it's mental.

 

[AndyWolves]

I'm really conflicted, I haven't agreed with much Boris has done prior to Covid19 but I'm agreeing that we're doing the right thing now.

To me it looks like they're starting to slow the rate of infection down, I don't think today's message has been a blanket ban on things more of a getting a certain percentage to reduce their exposure.

Follow this up with isolation for over 70s in a day or two and then I think we'll have a period of monitoring. If during that monitoring the numbers are higher than expected then stricter measures will be introduced. I.e. mandatory working from home, closing schools, non essential shops etc

The absolute key to all this is how many over 70s we can stop being infected. They're most likely to need hospitalisation and ICU, the more we keep them out of harm's way the higher rate of infection we can support across the rest of the population.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

I work for Sainsbury's so seeing the cuntishness up close.

Young mother came in yesterday, verge of tears, taxi waiting outside she'd been to four other supermarkets for nappies for her baby, we had none.

The new craze is buying formula milk In case of milk and UHT shortages. I wish I was joking.

Policing it is impossible, our tills have new prompts so people can't buy more than five if any item (even different brands i.e Baxters and Heinz soup) but nothing is stopping people going back through self scan as Johnny is alluding to.

Case of hand sanitizer delivered to my local pharmacy. Customer in line at the checkout turns round to everyone behind her and very loudly tells them that she is buying the whole case. The clerk says it is one per customer, so she makes a huge fuss. End result - the manager tells the clerk to override the till by selling her all 48 items one at a time.

There are very few things that Americans excel at, but being jerks is one of them.

 

[sycophantia]

I'm really conflicted, I haven't agreed with much Boris has done prior to Covid19 but I'm agreeing that we're doing the right thing now.

To me it looks like they're starting to slow the rate of infection down, I don't think today's message has been a blanket ban on things more of a getting a certain percentage to reduce their exposure.

Follow this up with isolation for over 70s in a day or two and then I think we'll have a period of monitoring. If during that monitoring the numbers are higher than expected then stricter measures will be introduced. I.e. mandatory working from home, closing schools, non essential shops etc

The absolute key to all this is how many over 70s we can stop being infected. They're most likely to need hospitalisation and ICU, the more we keep them out of harm's way the higher rate of infection we can support across the rest of the population.

I agree with most of this although I would like to see the measures as obligatory rather than advice, its too ambiguous as it is, also would have liked him to say they were at least looking at measures to aid people who are about to lose their jobs

 

[Kenny]

Those in the Theatre business are fookin fuming tonight. If Boris had told Theatres to shut they would be able to claim losses via insurance but as he has just told people to avoid they are fucked.

 

[Boozad]

The vile cunt has already fucked more people than virus will. Rancid fucker.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Those in the Theatre business are fookin fuming tonight. If Boris had told Theatres to shut they would be able to claim losses via insurance but as he has just told people to avoid they are fucked.

Not sure why the Gov't didn't take that step as most of us are voting with our feet & not going anyway.

 

[Kenny]

Not sure why the Gov't didn't take that step as most of us are voting with our feet & not going anyway.

Well you can look out for production companies who work on tight budgets and small profit margins or look out for the insurance firms with billionaire mates running them.

 

[Premier Quality]

To be fair, insurance companies employ shitloads of people - if they go bust, all those people are out of jobs, pensions tank, no one can get insurance, businesses fold and everyone’s fucked young and old.

Well you can look out for production companies who work on tight budgets and small profit margins or look out for the insurance firms with billionaire mates running them.

Almost as if stupid blanket statements like that are stupid...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Well BIBA did pay Mr Watermelon £25k for two hours' work in May 2019.

 

[Premier Quality]

So, predicting the future - I reckon we will now close schools either Friday or next Monday - immediately loads of people can’t work because they need to look after their kids.

Give it a month of mass isolation and a load of businesses will fold, and employees will be laid off - unless the government does similar to France and removes taxes and guarantees utilities and rent.

Call centres will end up going 9-5, and mostly servicing through messaging rather than calls.

Supermarkets will close or work largely through home deliveries, but reduced choice due to supply chain issues.

Hospitals will cancel all non emergency operations.

Care homes will struggle to get staff to look after their patients, and the death rate amongst the elderly will spike as a result

Prisons will struggle for guards, leading to lots of early releases.

Self employed people will really struggle and try to carry on - and people will still need boilers servicing etc.

Basically, lots of reductions in goods and services available.

School closures will be extended to the end of the summer holidays, or they will try and go back in three weeks, followed by a spike in cases and schools being closed again until the end of the summer holidays.

Anything I’ve missed?

 

[Sniffer]

Supermarkets can’t cope with a sharp increase in home deliveries. They can’t magic 1000’s of new vehicles overnight.

 

[Kenny]

Almost as if stupid blanket statements like that are stupid...

Excuse me for not trusting the guy in charge. I just feel his statement this evening has screwed over a lot of people and set it up in a way he (well Cummings) thinks people cant blame him

 

[Premier Quality]

Supermarkets can’t cope with a sharp increase in home deliveries. They can’t magic 1000’s of new vehicles overnight.

Agreed, and there won’t be enough people to drive them anyway, so there will be much less deliveries too

 

[Premier Quality]

Excuse me for not trusting the guy in charge. I just feel his statement this evening has screwed over a lot of people and set it up in a way he (well Cummings) thinks people cant blame him

Yeah that’s fine, this is a labour board, etc etc, but it’s all just posturing, right? There’s a genuine crisis underway, and people are just shovelling more of the same bullshit they’ve shovelled for the last few years, it’s very sad.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Case of hand sanitizer delivered to my local pharmacy. Customer in line at the checkout turns round to everyone behind her and very loudly tells them that she is buying the whole case. The clerk says it is one per customer, so she makes a huge fuss. End result - the manager tells the clerk to override the till by selling her all 48 items one at a time.

There are very few things that Americans excel at, but being jerks is one of them.

The manager should have said that it's one or if you make a fuss then it's none & kicked her out.

Just spoken to one of my son's who runs a car body repair shop - no one coming in for estimates for work in the last 10 days - has had 3 insurance jobs (doesn't like those as they take months to pay up even when it's been approved beforehand) but work is work. Have managed to get HMRC to stagger the payments for the Company's corporation tax that is due.