Bristol City 1 - 2 Wolves: Verdict thread

[Del Woppio]

I thought it was a red in real time, and after a million replays and stills you could realistically accept either card tbh. It's certainly not wrong enough to be rescinded.

And hopefully the last we see of him, because if he had anything like approaching a half decent touch he wouldn't have needed to dive in to try and rescue himself. He's not fit for purpose in this team

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Apart from all the games where he played well and we won.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

The reason I was furious with the ref was more to do with decisions made by previous referees. Week in, week out our players, especially Jota, have been on the end of pre-meditated fouls that are far worse than this. It has been reported that referees are more lenient in the Championship than the PL yet when one of our players makes a poor challenge he gets a straight red when other players have been getting a yellow at worst for much worse challenges. The Bristol player is late into the tackle but Batth clearly has a straight leg and studs up, and once committed to the challenge cannot stop himself. As soon as he makes contact the ref is within his rights to send hm off, it's the lack of consistency that is so annoying. Stupid challenge and we won't win an appeal.

 

[Kenny]

Have a feeling the reaction would be a lot different if the incident involved Boly instead of Danny B...

 

[MARKakaJIM]

As you could with any number of fair tackles. Remind me how Bobby Zamora broke his leg.

It's Magnusson who is late, not Batth.

Magnussen gets the ball cleanly too, his big side foot isn't going hurt anyone but Batth's follow through with the studs can do plenty of damage. Getting something on the ball is irrelevant to the law I think, Batth's touch doesn't even do anything to take the ball away from a City player, if anything he helps it on it's way so it's completely pointless.

If that challenge is by a City player on Jota then no-one bats an eyelid at the red card.

Either way the whole thing is avoided if Batth had the awareness to just knock the ball inside, think it was Saiss standing there.

 

[nimrod]

As you could with any number of fair tackles. Remind me how Bobby Zamora broke his leg.

It's Magnusson who is late, not Batth.

exactly. How about magnusson pull out rather than put himself at risk of injury?

if a keeper is about to hoof the ball clear of the goal line and I choose to move to a position where his follow through leg will strike me I’d say that’s my bad. should I expect him to leave it for me to tap into an open goal?

 

[Kenny]

We would be in shock if a foul on Jota led to a straight red.

 

[AndyWolves]

Imagine the pelters Danny would have got for not going in for the challenge

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I am not sure he would necessarily have got any.

 

[Norman Deeley]

you can use stills and slow-mo but I often think the best way to view something is at normal speed. For me it's a red card and I thought so as soon as he made the challenge. Whether he got the ball or not his momentum took him studs firstinto the other guy's foot and that's enough for the ref. Yes, I agree about inconsistency, but just because you got away with doing 50 in a 30mph limit doesn't mean that I should get away with it.
Clear red for thier keeper as well: I'm with Frank - I actually thought the ref had a decent game.

 

[Kenny]

I am not sure he would necessarily have got any.

Depends what happened after it. He pulls out of the challenge - ball is played into the gap and Bristol score he gets it from all angles for not "taking one for the team"
Obviously the whole incident is prevented by not having a heavy touch in the first place but he did and then, in my opinion, what happened it is not a red. I doubt we will win any appeal though. A great comparison in the Albion game today. Evans had a poor touch and lunged in and he was closer to the Arsenal player than Batth was to the Bristol one..result was a yellow card

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Maybe that is my point. You are trusting the referee not to be a complete buttfuck.

 

[AndyWolves]

Maybe that is my point. You are trusting the referee not to be a complete butt$#@!.

Doc trusted the ref and it changed the game.

I think it's a poor argument to say he shouldn't give the ref a decision, by that logic there are lots of things players shouldn't do, playing somebody offside for example

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

In my view that is a very different argument.

Anyway, the main thing is we effectively got away with it because we won the game. Now it is simply a question of whether any appeal is successful, which I doubt, but we are right to try.

 

[AndyWolves]

In my view that is a very different argument.

Anyway, the main thing is we effectively got away with it because we won the game. Now it is simply a question of whether any appeal is successful, which I doubt, but we are right to try.

The result could have been the same though, ref gives nowt and we lambast doc for not skipping the challenge to score

I'd say the ref got away with it

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

He was never going to NOT give that to be fair. It was blatant as you could wish to see, so I am not sure where you are going with that.

 

[Lycan]

This angle shows what a poor tackle it is IMO. Whether he touches the ball first or not is irrelevant, it's a dangerous tackle and deserved a red.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Dangerous in what way?

If the ball were a hologram then maybe.

 

[Parkins left foot]

This angle shows what a poor tackle it is IMO. Whether he touches the ball first or not is irrelevant, it's a dangerous tackle and deserved a red.

Whatever else that shows (& I have no problem with Batth's Red) how pumped up Nuno was a good few minutes after he had kicked off in the Director's Box and attacked an old man

This really means something to him

 

[Lycan]

Dangerous in what way?

If the ball were a hologram then maybe.

He absolutely nails him Dan, he comes down on the Bristol players ankle. If his foot had been planted Danny would've ripped it off his leg. There's no need to go in that forcefully.