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Brentford 3 - Wolves 0 - a black armband verdict thread

I'd like to say how shocked I am by tonight's result but I'm not. It's been coming.

If you routinely keep selecting a shockingly out-of-form goalkeeper, a woefully sub-standard full back, a centre-half pairing that play like Laurel and Hardy and a central midfielder who offers absolutely nothing, all while maintaining a style of football that makes the Crazy Gang of the mid-90s look like Guardiola's Barcelona, then you will get your arse handed to you on a plate now and then.
 
A bit before my time, Frank I'm sure will confirm, but anybody that played for McGarry says he was a $#@!...seemed to do OK for us first time round.

i think that was the case. and probably a little the same with cullis. I don't think he was ted farmer's favourite person for instance.

clearly there's a number of things going wrong as has been pointed out all season. how many underperformances and games without a win would we expect before the "board" need to be saying something, whatever that may be?
 
You can talk about whether Pearson is a knobhead or not, or whether his results cancel that out, or whether he was/is primarily responsible for Leicester's success over the last three years. He isn't coming here though. Not going to happen.
I think that is fair, which is one of the reasons why I'd go internal for a couple of months. If we lose our next 13 games there is still a decent chance we wouldn't go down. I think Pearson will turn up at Villa in the Summer where Championship wise they will have a decent budget. Media are talking about them dropping straight through, but with a shrewd appointment making the right signings, with their budget and crowds they should piss the league
 
I have a feeling that Jackett won't be at Wolves by 17.00 tomorrow.
He won't. He will be at home having a cuppa around that time...

I will still be very amazed if his bosses grow a pair and tell him his time is up.
 
Robbie Neilson, Dereck McInnes, Paul Cook, Justin Edinburgh, Gary Monk, Kevin Muscat...

Almost anyone.
 
Season ticket holder at Leicester that I work with, her sister is an employee there.
Tenuous? In some eyes I bet! But when am I so passionately anti- something like I am here? I'm not.
Johnny, do you know of him?

Only spoke to him fleetingly, more Shakespeare I spoke too and he couldn't praise him enough. I think Shakespeare and Walsh are equally responsible and as you say Pearson's success is largely built on their work IMO.

Having said that he is clearly a manager who can get a certain level from players if not very pleasantly. But as DW says there is 0% chance of him coming here.

I think Thelwell and Moxey are huge problems for the club and hopefully both are removed at the end of the season.
 
I'd like to say how shocked I am by tonight's result but I'm not. It's been coming.

If you routinely keep selecting a shockingly out-of-form goalkeeper, a woefully sub-standard full back and a central midfielder who offers absolutely nothing, all while maintaining a style of football that makes the Crazy Gang of the mid-90s look like Guardiola's Barcelona, then you will get your arse handed to you on a plate now and then.

In a nutshell. As I say we don't seem to have a gameplan at all. I have seen every single home game and increasingly since November I have had no idea what on earth we've been trying to achieve at Molineux. We don't attack teams, we don't have a style of play as such, we don't play to anyone's strengths, we don't stifle teams, we aren't competent at preventing teams from getting chances, we have too many players at the back who are prone to horrible errors and/or just plain aren't good enough. Away from home we've brazenly been aiming for 0-0s but we didn't really even do that tonight it seems.

This isn't all Ken's fault. The off field situation is a shitshow and isn't helping anyone. He has had some bad luck with injuries. That's nowhere near enough mitigation for this though. He is still making a lot of mistakes, showing no ability to change things, still has faith in the wrong players and wrong set ups, it's been long enough now and he clearly isn't going to turn it around.

Paul Cook is my choice as and when Jez pushes the button and makes a call he should have made months ago.

- The relationship between club and fans is extremely fractured (again). This would be a popular appointment and even if results weren't great to start with (they could scarcely get any worse, but we do have multiple squad issues so there won't be any miracles) he would get a lot of leeway from the support.

- Plays good football. Has done wherever he has been. I am sick of watching the way we currently play, I can accept being mid-table in our current circumstances if we're at least playing some decent stuff but we do not. Horrible aesthetically and the home record is a disgrace.

- We are not a great draw at the moment with the off field situation but Cooky would come here in a heartbeat.

- He's never really had anything to spend anywhere so would fit our requirements to work to a fairly small budget. Similarly, knows the lower leagues where you would imagine we would look to do a portion of our shopping.

It's a gamble of sorts, but I think the higher profile out of work candidates wouldn't even consider us at the moment and he is certainly a better bet than some of the other names that will inevitably be linked.

I could give you about 50 names I don't want...
 
Cooky isn't doing that well this year respective to budget though and I say that as someone who has him in my all time team as a supporter. I also know as a player he wasn't always the most professional and have read accusations of the same when he was at Chesterfield. Also anyone under 30 wouldn't remember seeing him play for us. I wouldn't be against it, but not sure it'd be the correct move
 
Was Martin Ling managing Swindon when we were in League One? They played some decent football against us IIRC.
 
No. Ling was only there for a month or two this season and Luke Williams has since taken over (who has a lot of potential as a coach/manager). That was Mark Cooper when we were in league 1 I think.
 
Was Martin Ling managing Swindon when we were in League One? They played some decent football against us IIRC.

Oi, nvm, see that he was unemployed at the time.
 
Was Martin Ling managing Swindon when we were in League One? They played some decent football against us IIRC.
Martin Ling (who wasn't their manager anyway) unfortunately won't be managing a football league team ever again due to his mental health. I think it was probably Mark Cooper who was manager then, but haven't looked it up. Prior to that he was sacked by Tamworth, so not somewhere we should be looking
 
Ling won't manage again.

Yep, highly unlikely and a shame because he is a pretty good manager. He had a very good back room staff working with him at Swindon who he knew well and they all had similar beliefs.
 
Martin Ling (who wasn't their manager anyway) unfortunately won't be managing a football league team ever again due to his mental health. I think it was probably Mark Cooper who was manager then, but haven't looked it up. Prior to that he was sacked by Tamworth, so not somewhere we should be looking

Aye. I'm just looking through the list of unemployed managers to see what names I recognize.

Amazingly, Garry Monk has only averaged 0.06 ppg more than Dean Saunders over their respective careers.
 
Saunders did have Doncaster in the top 2 when he left them for us which would distort his record somewhat versus Monk who has only ever managed an unfashionable team in the PL. Not sure about Monk, I think he'd be a gamble, but equally we'd be a gamble for him
 
Karl Robinson.
Not ideal but off the top of my head that's who I'd look at.

After the absolute shite MK served up at Molineux, no thanks! Overrated and no better than Jackett. His limit is low/mid-table Championship. I want more than that
 
Chris Powell did okay at Charlton. Less so at Huddersfield.

No other names from inside England really look appealing that haven't already been mentioned. Granted I'm not nearly well-versed on this topic.
 
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