Best England XI (1978 to 2020)

[Nando]

I'd be bloody happy to be moaning about the Lampard/Gerrard partnership now, given our current options.

Carrick just missed out for me, principally because he was criminally underused. Such a good player.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, I struggle to put Carrick in when he was constantly available for nearly 15 years and only got 34 caps. He belongs to a different thread, undercapped players or whatever.

The Lampard/Gerrard thing really wasn't the problem that many made it out to be. They both did well for England. Not saying it worked brilliantly but our problems lay elsewhere.

 

[Sniffer]

Carrick in front of the back four with Gerrard and Lampard in a 4-3-3 with our current forward line would be frightening. Just need the back four from the Mid 2000's.

 

[Tredman]

So back 4 from mid 2000s, mid 3 from early 2010s and forward 3 from now?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Please allow for the people who insist old football was better, while forgetting that England managed to fail to qualify for a load of tournaments in the 70s and 80s. Almost as if those players weren't actually that good

 

[Sniffer]

So back 4 from mid 2000s, mid 3 from early 2010s and forward 3 from now?

G Neville—————Ferdinand——Terry————-A.Cole

——————Gerrard———-Carrick———Lampard——-

Sancho—————————-Kane———————Sterling


I’d say that’s a decent line up. Not necessarily the best players.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Please allow for the people who insist old football was better, while forgetting that England managed to fail to qualify for a load of tournaments in the 70s and 80s. Almost as if those players weren't actually that good

They were that good. Just not collectively.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Shilton was a top keeper for twenty years but seaman gets the vote even though his fuck up from ronaldinho is as bad in no it worse than shils v Poland or his back peddle v Germany on Parker's reflection. Safe hands my arse lol!

Its horses for courses. Norman Hunter was great in the 70s but would not get a game now. Sterling is great now butwould have been kicked off the park in Hunters time.

That's the thing. What's good in time A can be average in time B. Charlton would not get a game for Man U 2020 and Martial would not get a game for Man U 1968.

 

[Sniffer]

Gasgcoine 23
Robson 15
Lampard 13
Scholes 5
Gerrard 7
Hargreaves 1
Plant 1

 

[Johnny75]

So is the next stage to pick a second midfielder to play with Gazza? I presume you could put people on your list you've already had?

 

[Sniffer]

Next up a midfield partner for Gazza. Results at a similar time tomorrow.

 

[Sniffer]

So is the next stage to pick a second midfielder to play with Gazza? I presume you could put people on your list you've already had?

Yes Johnny

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Frank Lampard
David Platt
Owen Hargreaves

 

[Sniffer]

Robson
Gerrard
Lampard

 

[Tony Towner]

Robson
Gerrard
Terry McDermott

 

[Tredman]

Gerrard
Hargreaves
Robson

 

[Sniffer]

Shilton was a top keeper for twenty years but seaman gets the vote even though his fuck up from ronaldinho is as bad in no it worse than shils v Poland or his back peddle v Germany on Parker's reflection. Safe hands my arse lol!

Its horses for courses. Norman Hunter was great in the 70s but would not get a game now. Sterling is great now butwould have been kicked off the park in Hunters time.

That's the thing. What's good in time A can be average in time B. Charlton would not get a game for Man U 2020 and Martial would not get a game for Man U 1968.

Codswallop. All keepers make mistakes and Bobby Charlton would get into Uniteds team in any era.

 

[Johnny75]

Gerard
Ince
Wilkins

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Interesting that even those old enough to remember him in an England shirt (not me, for the record) aren't going for Hoddle.

 

[Johnny75]

Interesting that even those old enough to remember him in an England shirt (not me, for the record) aren't going for Hoddle.

Heddle was a fantastic player, just a fucking arsehole.