Beer

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I never knew Beavertown was owned by Robert Plant's son either. If only they could serve it at Molineux, or sort out a cheeky sponsorship deal!

 

[machin05]

I never knew Beavertown was owned by Robert Plant's son either. If only they could serve it at Molineux, or sort out a cheeky sponsorship deal!

At the rate they're growing, they could buy the club at the end of the season!

 

[Langers]

Those keg prices are more expensive than the vast majority of places in Bristol!

I was paying £2.90 for Cloudwater 2/3 pints in Small Bar last weekend.

If there wasn't the cask menu, I wouldn't bother going in. But the cask selection/prices are much more to my liking.

You're not going to get people trying these beers by making them more expensive for less liquid.

 

[machin05]

Quality > quantity > price

 

[Lycan]

Quality > quantity > price

Problem is there's not much quality up there.

 

[machin05]

No, not yet. Hopefully that side of things will grow if people are prepared to give it a shot.

 

[Langers]

Quality > quantity > price

Yes, but the Average Joe won't see it that way and it isn't going to make people try these craft beers.

"Hmm.. yes - I'll try less than a pint of that one which is more expensive than a pint of that one, please."

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It really isn't 'miserliness' to object to those prices.

 

[machin05]

Yes, but the Average Joe won't see it that way and it isn't going to make people try these craft beers.

"Hmm.. yes - I'll try less than a pint of that one which is more expensive than a pint of that one, please."

What do you expect them to do? Sell it at a loss? It's hard enough for pubs to make a profit (unless they are pubco or gastro) as it is.

There's no point in selling it for cheaper than is commercially viable for. That isn't sustainable. If people are interested in craft beer, then hopefully they'll surely have some understanding that a lot more specialist and expensive ingredients go into making it and it's brewed in smaller batches, hence the price.

Beer people are weird. You wouldn't get someone moaning that the gourmet burger diner is more expensive than Maccies! Or theat they won't try free range chicken because those frozen nuggets are cheaper.

Like I said, that cask list is bang on for the real ale fans, and being able to offer Bathams and Sarah Hughes will satisfy a lot of drinkers. Hopefully the keg offerings will finally give the city a decent craft outlet for the fans of that type of beer - and maybe even turn a few more people on to it in the process.

 

[machin05]

It really isn't 'miserliness' to object to those prices.

Perhaps not for the cider (of which I know nothing about) and the Marstons Revisionist, but I stand by the rest of my post.

To not try the Cloudwater Black IPA just because it's £1 more than the Slater's one is frugality erring on the side of spitefulness.

 

[Stan Hullis]

Without wanting to sound derogatory, it would be naive to think that the pricing hasn't been set to discourage the people that Slater's don't want to visit the bar, also.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, but I wouldn't try either of them as I don't drink ale. I'm just telling you why I wouldn't go, they sell one drink I'd want and £20 buys me what amounts to three and a bit pints. I'm not made of bloody money.

It's an extremely niche market at a price point wildly at odds with everything else in an economically depressed city which to date has shown little to no appetite for that kind of offering, that's why I think they've got it wrong.

 

[machin05]

Yeah, but I wouldn't try either of them as I don't drink ale. I'm just telling you why I wouldn't go, they sell one drink I'd want and £20 buys me what amounts to three and a bit pints. I'm not made of bloody money.

It's an extremely niche market at a price point wildly at odds with everything else in an economically depressed city which to date has shown little to no appetite for that kind of offering, that's why I think they've got it wrong.

That's fair enough. As a non-ale drinker, you probably aren't their core demographic :icon_wink:

I don't think it's that niche anymore? Craft beer is a rapidly growing market and it's about time we had a decent outlet that extendeds past the bottle fridge at The Posada.

Time will tell whether they have got it wrong.

I think we've been crying out for a craft beer bar, you know, being a brewing city...

 

[Langers]

I think it's a good starting point to have the keg selection alongside the cask. I much prefer cask but if I was there for an evening I'd no doubt give one of the kegs a try.

Opening a bar that only served craft beer would have been an error, but this seems like a good idea to me and is what the city centre needs. It doesn't look like that god awful Tilt place in Brum, for example.

 

[machin05]

I think it's a good starting point to have the keg selection alongside the cask. I much prefer cask but if I was there for an evening I'd no doubt give one of the kegs a try.

Opening a bar that only served craft beer would have been an error, but this seems like a good idea to me and is what the city centre needs. It doesn't look like that god awful Tilt place in Brum, for example.

For fear of sound like a douche, I try not to judge a beer on it's method of dispense. There are beers that are better on cask, and beers that are undoubtedly better on keg. So, obviously, choice is paramount.

 

[machin05]

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[Langers]

For fear of sound like a douche, I try not to judge a beer on it's method of dispense. There are beers that are better on cask, and beers that are undoubtedly better on keg. So, obviously, choice is paramount.

Of course, but in this instance, it's a Slaters pub. I like Slaters and haven't tried all that many of them. There are plenty of Slaters ales on cask which are cheaper than those on keg. And the ones on keg are often too strong and in this instance they're 2/3 of a pint.

And I'd be more likely to try a pint I hadn't had before than I would be to sample a beer from the craft beer list. That's just me though - if there wasn't anything I particularly fancied on the cask list, I'd have no problems trying one of the others.

 

[machin05]

They're 2/3 because they're high ABV :icon_wink:

 

[machin05]

And I'd be more likely to try a pint I hadn't had before than I would be to sample a beer from the craft beer list.

Struggling to make sense of this. Why? Price?

 

[Langers]

Struggling to make sense of this. Why? Price?

Price, strength, previous knowledge of brewery of cask ale.

If I'd tried all the cask ales and none of them really appealed to me at that time, or if I fancied trying something new I'd check out the craft range but I wouldn't be as likely to drink less and pay more for doing so.