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The Summer 2024 Transfer Thread.

Kenny said:
That's been confirmed numerous times though. Hardly a shock is it.
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He shouldn't directly say it and tell the fans that we should be grateful to see them full stop. Why can't they just behave normally, it's not much to ask.

Plus there's the flim-flam of whether we will or won't use the money. I remember them telling us that moving Fabio and Sasa out early meant we were well positioned to use the spare budget to sign a striker that the manager actually wanted to use. Went well, IIRC.

They can't have it all ways. You want to charge premium prices, don't act as if you're Rotherham United.
 
Kenny said:
Well can't they?

If the job is to get players, improve and sell for a profit then yep, they can take credit and if no other fucker will give it them, then self back slap away.
Neto arriving was Mendes but his improvement is on the club. GoN especially got the best out of him.
Our previous sale was a kid from non league and sold for £40m.

Next up will be turning £15m Gomes into a £50m sale

To me, it seems to be fashionable right now to say fuck you at the club whatever it is.

The Sporting Director saying, yep we did our job based on what they are asked just seems a stretch but if raging over everything at the club is your thing, go nuts my friend.
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As @Deutsch Wolf says, the job of the club is to win games, not be a talent factory.

Jeff the balance sheet can fuck off and I'll be absolutely delighted when Fosun sell and we can stop this ridiculous charade of trying to be something nobody wants or needs.

And no, fans don't want to hear how good the club are at 'developing' players. We want the club to win games of football and treat us decently , both of which haven't happened this calendar year.

Mendes has far more of a hand in developing players careers then the bang average manager but very good coach we currently have. I would argue Nuno was the catalyst for Neto and GoN was just getting him back to that level after the Lage debacle.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
They can't have it all ways. You want to charge premium prices, don't act as if you're Rotherham United.
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Agree but Hobbs and his team are asked to work in a particular way and they are doing.
Much prefer him to be open and honest on that front.

Makes a change from the A.I bullshit we get from the Exec Chairman.
 
Kenny said:
Agree but Hobbs and his team are asked to work in a particular way and they are doing.
Much prefer him to be open and honest on that front.
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Then he should be telling his boss that in an email not the fans who are shelling out to hear the 'be grateful you're a feeder club in the PL' bullshit.

Hobbs has done some great work but he needs to tell his PR people to fuck off or write something decent for him as he can't do it.
 
Kenny said:
Agree but Hobbs and his team are asked to work in a particular way and they are doing.
Much prefer him to be open and honest on that front.

Makes a change from the A.I bullshit we get from the Exec Chairman.
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Being a bit better than Jeff is no kind of bar. I don't mind Hobbs on the whole and he does the bidding of his paymasters, that's fine. Patronising the fanbase and saying things that patently aren't true, not fine.
 
Semantics really. In our top 2, unless you are very misguided. The point remains the same.
 
Johnny75 said:
As @Deutsch Wolf says, the job of the club is to win games, not be a talent factory.



And no, fans don't want to hear how good the club are at 'developing' players. We want the club to win games of football and treat us decently , both of which haven't happened this calendar year.
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The job of Hobbs is just that though.
That doesn't change until Jeff goes or Fosun sell up/get that investment, so I will stick with appreciating a degree of honesty from the man put forward to the fans on transfers etc.

Can separate the different elements enough to understand his comments. Also know the policy is loaded with risk and at some point it will bite us and we will be back in the Championship.
I would say GO feels similar as he is publicly pushing for players who are proven to add on top of the talent factory purchases.
Whether he gets his way, we will see. History says nope but this window actually started with us spending money before we had received a penny, which was a huge change compared to last summer.
 
I'd mind less if they spent money properly and they clearly don't. There's no efficiency in the model.

Jota goes and we sign Fabio and Hoever.
Nearly all of the money for MGW goes on Guedes.
We needed the Neves sale to balance the books but we get the bonus of somehow getting back more than we paid for Collins and Nunes, who are both shite (and in themselves a horrible indictment of how we scout players). Great stuff....except we've bought little of any value with it.
We get Jonny, Fabio and Sasa off the wage bill for six months and do nothing with it.

We need 4-5 good players in three weeks, we aren't going to get them.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
I'd mind less if they spent money properly and they clearly don't. There's no efficiency in the model.

Jota goes and we sign Fabio and Hoever.
Nearly all of the money for MGW goes on Guedes.
We needed the Neves sale to balance the books but we get the bonus of somehow getting back more than we paid for Collins and Nunes, who are both shite (and in themselves a horrible indictment of how we scout players). Great stuff....except we've bought little of any value with it.

We need 4-5 good players in three weeks, we aren't going to get them.
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Agree it's been all over the place but we seem to have landed on the actual original Fosun* plan from last summer by default.

We all know Silva was not a scouting team idea
We all know Guedes was the top of the Mendes mountain.

Collins was an odd as the even this place was largely positive with his arrival and fans at his previous club gutted he had gone.

Not a clue who will sign in the next few weeks and their quality will vary on who you ask for an opinion. So until they actually kick a ball for us, can't call if they are good or not. A large portion of were meh at Mario for example and he has turned into a vital player for us.
Could also sign no one as well....the Jeff lottery.



*always been about finding potential and selling 1 or 2 a window for profits to reinvest. Just never done it as we had a spell where China allowed money to be invested and we could go for players like Mout, Rui etc
 
Kenny said:
The job of Hobbs is just that though.
That doesn't change until Jeff goes or Fosun sell up/get that investment, so I will stick with appreciating a degree of honesty from the man put forward to the fans on transfers etc.

Can separate the different elements enough to understand his comments. Also know the policy is loaded with risk and at some point it will bite us and we will be back in the Championship.
I would say GO feels similar as he is publicly pushing for players who are proven to add on top of the talent factory purchases.
Whether he gets his way, we will see. History says nope but this window actually started with us spending money before we had received a penny, which was a huge change compared to last summer.
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GoN shouldn't be anywhere near having an opinion on recruitment, this is the man who was pushing for Harrison Reed.

He should stick to coaching the same way the very best current managers do.
 
Neves
Coady
Giles
Sanderson
Sarkic (RIP)
Collins
Nunes
Kilman
Neto

Well over £200m of sales there, all since the end of 2022/23.

Lifted all those off the wage bill as well as Jonny, Raul, Moutinho and Adama who were on close to £300k a week between them.

So if you have a model that works, you can bank some of that money to cover previous spending and well, just to have it in the bank, and sign half a dozen players that benefit the squad.

Except we don't do the last bit. All we're doing is losing good players.

Edit: We got money for Raul too so add him to the first list as well.
 
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Not sure we've spent any incoming money wisely since promotion
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Except we don't do the last bit. All we're doing is losing good players.
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Well no but a large part of that was the recklessness of Jeff, post Covid and the Lopetegui save our season spree (which carried into last summers budget).

Personally I have no issue with what we are doing on the transfer front if we are open about it and actually stick to it.
I don't want another panic window that then fucks up the next 2.

The other club stuff should marry up to that policy and have no argument that Jeff has done that. He hasn't, he has set everything else up as if we are doing big spending each window but in just looking at the Hobbs comments it matches my expectations in that 1 area.
The fact I am not even remotely interested in returning to Molineux is based on the other stuff
 
The Hobbs piece is meh, its just normal management speak claptrap, I stopped listening to that sort of shite at work 30+ years ago. Dunno why they feel the need to come out with it but can't be arsed to get angry about it.
We all know Fosun have been crap for a few years now and it's been discussed a lot.
Whether the new version of the model works out remains to be seen.
 
Johnny75 said:
GoN shouldn't be anywhere near having an opinion on recruitment, this is the man who was pushing for Harrison Reed.

He should stick to coaching the same way the very best current managers do.
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I think the majority of signings he gets a minor input.

I doubt he had much of a view on say, Lima. Got told we could get him, given an overview etc.

If he wants league ready players, it will still be a Hobbs thing but then he re-signed Doc..so maybe trust GO there...👀
 
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