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Wolves 0 - Huddersfield 1 - an irrelevant game with an irrelevant scoreline verdict t

Also, on behalf of myself, Aikiwolf and SamWolf I would like to apologize to Deutsch, LemonJelly and Johnny for them having to sit through that garbage last night in our absence ;)

Do you know what Mike (and I made a good impression of you by the way, only with slightly more hair and weight) I actually quite enjoyed it. We really aren't as bad as a lot of reports have made out. I'll put up a full report later but bar the obvious weak links (Striker and Dave Edwards) there is the nucleus of a squad to work with. However, no Costa, no Cav, no goals.
 
The problem for me is in all that time, (three different managers) one thing has remained a constant... Who we have in the background advising the manager.

When Jackett went Zenga had to keep Mountain, Edwards and Daley so he had help "adjusting to the players he inherited". He was allowed to bring in one extra member of staff.
When Lambert came in AGAIN the same staff and Thelwell were retained so they could "advise him...etc". Again he brought one member of staff with him.

The reason the same $#@! gets trundled out week in, week out (but sometimes in different positions) is the clique that has formed between certain long time players and the coaching staff. We need a full clean out and the manager needs to bring his own coaches in and more than bloody three coaches! I don't know if that manager should remain to be Lambert because, as a strong manager, he should've been able to see the flaws in the players that he has selected and the positions he has selected them in.

However the main changes must be the removal of Kevin Thelwell, Pat Mountain, Rob Edwards and possibly Tony Daley too as there is something wrong with our medical department which has been shown with players recovery times and injury reoccurrences.

Regardless of how we played last night this is absolutely spot on. We need a clean sweep of all. Last night is the first time I've been in the South Bank this calendar year but the first time I have outwardly seen the crowd criticize Dave Edwards. The fans showed exactly what they thought of the players when they ran away faster than Dangerous when we have the ball so when some of the players wandered over to congratulate them for their support it was empty.

But I really don't think it's the players fault, they are being asked to play in different styles, in different formations, sometimes 3 in one game, and with a different tempo week in week out and for anybody in any line of work that is extremely difficult. Wenger, Guardiola, Conte, Mourinho and Klopp have 1 style and you have to try and get around that. Changing occasionally is OK but every game is nonsense and actively detrimental to a person (let alone a footballer) psychology.

If the coaching plan is adaptability then it has failed spectacularly but those responsible will not change and will not lose their jobs over it when they should. That in my mind is the only failing Fosun have.
 
Dave Edwards. Dave fucking Edwards.

Not that he needs to guarantee himself a start in the next game, because we all know he's an automatic pick, but he hit the post last night, don't you know? So he DEFINITELY has to start the next game. What a load of fucking bollocks.

I refuse to attend a game whilst this carthorse (amongst the many others) continue to pollute Molineux. Great attitude, lovely fella, he's been a tremendous servant to the club - but he's not good enough & I don't want to see him anywhere near our starting 11. Likewise with plenty of others.

Wholesale changes in the playing staff are required this summer - but it won't happen because "you can't just change everything and expect to make it work".

We have a ridiculous amount of poor to average Championship cloggers in our squad and I have no interest in watching them. For years Wolverhampton Wanderers have had the infrastructure and fan base to be a Premier League side, but for years we have continued to see the same failings over & over again on the pitch. Call it an overreaction, but I've had enough (and I'm sure many others have too).

With 20,000 + Season Tickets sold for next season off the back of a reasonable FA Cup run, I'm sure Fosun couldn't care less.

Some serious work better be done over the summer on the player front to get some proper footballers in, or I won't be back at Molineux any time soon. Fair play to those of you that continue to persevere!
 
Oh, and for what it's worth, I'd have rather watched João Teixeira play 30+ games this season in our midfield, make a few mistakes and be a bit naive, but ultimately get used to the league and the game over here, than watch Dave Edwards aimlessly run around week in week out where we've learnt the square root of nothing.

Dave is not the sole reason I hate watching Wolves at the moment, but he's certainly a perfect example of what's wrong with us. We'd rather put our trust in an experienced professional who will run around a lot, get the odd goal and who puts a shift in, then a young, talented, naturally gifted player like Teixeira. Christ, we can't have anyone who's skillful and who can pick a pass in our midfield - ship him off on loan to Forest & be done with him.

It sucks.
 
Second terrible game in a row. The main problems were as follows:

1) No leadership on pitch
2) We move the ball for too slowly and therefore give our attacking players little chance to create as we are so easy to defend against.
3) None of our defence or midfield can control the ball instantly and then pass the ball accurately
4) Little movement from the attacking 4 players


Burgoyne - should have saved the goal - 6
Iorfa - For me he has not improved much since his debut - like Bambi on ice - 5
Baath - Offers no leadership, unable to lead by example, very poor when in possession - 5
Stearman - A trier but just not good enough - 5
Silvio - Did OK after being out for so long. Struggled with Scannell's strength, but never gave up - 6

Edwards - Went close with a couple of headers, apart from that was anonymous, never a holding midfield player in a million years - 5
Price - Never seen him play so bad - can only pass sideways and backwards and forward pass is either off target or intercepted - 4

MGW - Tried hard but was easily eased off ball too many times - 6
Weimann - works very hard but he's not a winger - 6
Marshall - Not his best game - unsure where to play him as he lacks pace but hiss passing and deadball delivery is excellent - 6

JDB - Like Stearman he's a trier but just not very good - 6

SUBS:

Mason - a couple of good touches but understandably rusty - 6
Graham - great to see him back. underhit and overhit a couple of crosses. But he's not lost his ability to take players on. Will be a great asses next season - 6

How on earth Cav and Saiss were not selected beggars belief far better technical footballers than those who played
 
I also think that apart from getting rid of 8-9 of the squad and bringing in 6-7 first team starters in the summer Lambert needs fo change the coaching team

New ideas and new approach needed.

Can someone tell me what Edwards and Mountain do ? None of our keepers are great and none of them have improved
 
There must be something wrong with his attitude Jinks, he hasnt kicked a ball for Forest since he moved..
 
Regardless of how we played last night this is absolutely spot on. We need a clean sweep of all. Last night is the first time I've been in the South Bank this calendar year but the first time I have outwardly seen the crowd criticize Dave Edwards. The fans showed exactly what they thought of the players when they ran away faster than Dangerous when we have the ball so when some of the players wandered over to congratulate them for their support it was empty.

But I really don't think it's the players fault, they are being asked to play in different styles, in different formations, sometimes 3 in one game, and with a different tempo week in week out and for anybody in any line of work that is extremely difficult. Wenger, Guardiola, Conte, Mourinho and Klopp have 1 style and you have to try and get around that. Changing occasionally is OK but every game is nonsense and actively detrimental to a person (let alone a footballer) psychology.

If the coaching plan is adaptability then it has failed spectacularly but those responsible will not change and will not lose their jobs over it when they should. That in my mind is the only failing Fosun have.

Sounds like the second coming of Saunders thinking. One of his early interviews im sure he said something about changing formations and roles during the game and they wont know whats hit them...
 
With 20,000 + Season Tickets sold for next season off the back of a reasonable FA Cup run, I'm sure Fosun couldn't care less.!

They've spent a huge amount on buying the club and a huge amount on players so far. Even with 20,000 season ticket holders at £500 a pop (and the average will be far less) that income only £10m. It doesn't even scratch the surface of what has been paid out in assets, let alone ongoing costs.

I'm sure that they do care and changes will be made in the summer to enhance the possibility of them making a serious return on their investment. The return will only be achieved through promotion else they'll be looking at huge losses.
 
I can't get too worked up about the last few games. Obviously it'd be nice to turn up and actually look like we give a shit but our excellent run of form in March means we've avoided a potential stressful end to the season.

Of course, we shouldn't have ever been in this position, and absolutely - we've got too much shit in the squad but I still think there's plenty of decent talent already here. We just need to swap that deadwood for genuine, quality players who can fit right in and won't be brought in 'to compete for a place in the squad'. Lambert's comments have always brought me to the conclusion that he knows there's a shitload of work to do and the squad is nowhere near ready for a genuine promotion push without a good transfer window and a proper preseason (and this is going to benefit a lot of players who for various reasons have had stop/start seasons).

I won't even acknowledge the well-publicised criticism of the owners as that's total bullshit but they'll want to see improvements next season. Lambert will know that, the players will know that.

I'll get worked up if by September we're still seeing a plethora of bang average players in the side. Until then, let's see what happens. Not going 'full Alan' here but a bit of patience is required.
 
Oh, and for what it's worth, I'd have rather watched João Teixeira play 30+ games this season in our midfield, make a few mistakes and be a bit naive, but ultimately get used to the league and the game over here, than watch Dave Edwards aimlessly run around week in week out where we've learnt the square root of nothing.

Dave is not the sole reason I hate watching Wolves at the moment, but he's certainly a perfect example of what's wrong with us. We'd rather put our trust in an experienced professional who will run around a lot, get the odd goal and who puts a shift in, then a young, talented, naturally gifted player like Teixeira. Christ, we can't have anyone who's skillful and who can pick a pass in our midfield - ship him off on loan to Forest & be done with him.

It sucks.

Just re-watching those goals yesterday on the Goal of the Season thread made me think similar about Teixera. I know people said he was a bit lightweight but damn, would he not have been a better #10 than... anyone... (Even Cav, Teix's designed for that position, doesn't have the pace to worry about playing on the wing) and even been a better deep player (in a 2) than Dave Edwards if given a solid run.

Someone will probably point out that Zenga wasn't playing a #10 and he was surplus or something but hey ho.
 
Oh, and for what it's worth, I'd have rather watched João Teixeira play 30+ games this season in our midfield, make a few mistakes and be a bit naive, but ultimately get used to the league and the game over here, than watch Dave Edwards aimlessly run around week in week out where we've learnt the square root of nothing.

Dave is not the sole reason I hate watching Wolves at the moment, but he's certainly a perfect example of what's wrong with us. We'd rather put our trust in an experienced professional who will run around a lot, get the odd goal and who puts a shift in, then a young, talented, naturally gifted player like Teixeira. Christ, we can't have anyone who's skillful and who can pick a pass in our midfield - ship him off on loan to Forest & be done with him.

It sucks.

Saw several games this season where Tex just wasn't working - talented lad but possibly not right for this league. He's done nothing at Forest.

I don't like seeing Edwards playing week in week out either, and he offers fuck all too frequently but you paint him out to be a talentless oaf who never offers anything. That's not true and it's not fair. He's had plenty of decent games - the issue is he gets picked despite offering nothing for several games whereas others are replaced for similarly poor performances. I've no problem with him playing when he's in one of his purple patches and he's had those this season.
 
I can't get too worked up about the last few games. Obviously it'd be nice to turn up and actually look like we give a shit but our excellent run of form in March means we've avoided a potential stressful end to the season.

Of course, we shouldn't have ever been in this position, and absolutely - we've got too much shit in the squad but I still think there's plenty of decent talent already here. We just need to swap that deadwood for genuine, quality players who can fit right in and won't be brought in 'to compete for a place in the squad'. Lambert's comments have always brought me to the conclusion that he knows there's a shitload of work to do and the squad is nowhere near ready for a genuine promotion push without a good transfer window and a proper preseason (and this is going to benefit a lot of players who for various reasons have had stop/start seasons).

I won't even acknowledge the well-publicised criticism of the owners as that's total bullshit but they'll want to see improvements next season. Lambert will know that, the players will know that.

I'll get worked up if by September we're still seeing a plethora of bang average players in the side. Until then, let's see what happens. Not going 'full Alan' here but a bit of patience is required.

I could probably count the players i'd be that bothered about losing on one hand, I think people would show a bit more understanding if they could see something to build on for next season and a style of play developing. As it is we need to get rid of a LOT of deadwood (most of which Lambert is still using despite our season being effectively over) and need to bring in a lot of players - including players right through the spine of the team.

I personally think there is too much for Wolves to do in one transfer window so I don't expect them to be ready to challenge the top 6 next season.
 
Saw several games this season where Tex just wasn't working - talented lad but possibly not right for this league. He's done nothing at Forest.

I don't like seeing Edwards playing week in week out either, and he offers fuck all too frequently but you paint him out to be a talentless oaf who never offers anything. That's not true and it's not fair. He's had plenty of decent games - the issue is he gets picked despite offering nothing for several games whereas others are replaced for similarly poor performances. I've no problem with him playing when he's in one of his purple patches and he's had those this season.

So you're dismissing Tex as "possibly not right" for this league on a handful of games, but are happy to defend Edwards when we've had the best part of a decade to see that, quite clearly, he's not fit for purpose?

Seems a little hypocritical if you ask me?

As I've said, my problem isn't solely with Dave Edwards - be he's the perfect indictment of what's wrong with the footballing side of our club.

Tex is neither here or there - he may or may not have worked out, but again, he seems a relevant example when discussing this point.
 
So you're dismissing Tex as "possibly not right" for this league on a handful of games, but are happy to defend Edwards when we've had the best part of a decade to see that, quite clearly, he's not fit for purpose?

Seems a little hypocritical if you ask me?

As I've said, my problem isn't solely with Dave Edwards - be he's the perfect indictment of what's wrong with the footballing side of our club.

Tex is neither here or there - he may or may not have worked out, but again, he seems a relevant example when discussing this point.

Yes, because I never said that I don't like seeing Edwards playing week in week out, or that I don't see an issue with him being chosen despite offering nothing...... Oh hang on...
 
So you're dismissing Tex as "possibly not right" for this league on a handful of games, but are happy to defend Edwards when we've had the best part of a decade to see that, quite clearly, he's not fit for purpose?

Seems a little hypocritical if you ask me?

As I've said, my problem isn't solely with Dave Edwards - be he's the perfect indictment of what's wrong with the footballing side of our club.

Tex is neither here or there - he may or may not have worked out, but again, he seems a relevant example when discussing this point.

If not Tex, any number of players could "do a job" in the #10 role. Mason, Bright, Ronan, Cav, Herc and MGW (I know there have been some injuries to some of those players) but it's the constant shoehorning of Edwards into that position when all history shows he offers the square root of fuck all that really pisses me off
 
Mason for me is just a mish mash of mess. Neither a goalscorer, neither a creator.
 
My thoughts on the game:

Good old Lonergan pulled up in the warm up (apparently) so had to be replaced, which was a bonus as I wouldn't mind seeing Burgoyne playing. Sadly for poor Harry he really isn't ready. On the plus side he's very good with his feet, distributes quickly and can actually communicate with his defenders, on the negative side his chocolate wrists and flapping at crosses mean he just doesn't have the physical strength yet to play at this level. His positioning is fine but when you looked at Danny Ward in the Huddersfield goal there is simply no comparison and they are only 3 years in difference. Ward came and claimed everything and dominated his defence, and our attack. We should be looking at making him our number 1 keeper target.

Defensively we were reasonably OK, Wells and others had little change out of Iorfa, Silvio, Stears and Batth. But there was a clear miscommunication between them and the midfield. Batth was at the heart of this and there were squables with Price, Weimann and Marshall, it made for an unhappy looking relationship. Having said that Batth was pretty good on the ball in the main, we know he's too slow in thought and sometimes makes the wrong decisions but technically he was fine. Stears on the other hand was terrible, abdicating responsibility, playing at a half-arsed pace, getting in the wrong positions, leaving Batth exposed for pace with Wells 1v1 and generally playing utter shite. Silvio was the pick of the defenders, an actual full back who linked with Marshall very well and then latterly Graham when he came on. A technically wonderful player, comfortable with both feet and a fine range of passing, even fancied a go from distance too. But mainly Silvio can defend and he's bloody good at it, something I haven't seen at Molineux for 3 years. 3 YEARS!!!

The midfield has been castigated enough on here and much of that has to do with the set up:

---------------------Burgoyne---------------------

-Iorfa------Batth------------Stears---------Silvio-

---------------------Price---------------------------












Weimann----------MGW---------------Marshall

--------------------BOD--------------------------

Those of you with eagle eyes will notice there are only 10 players there and a gulf between Jack Price and the rest of his team. Wiemann and Marshall ended up getting deeper and deeper in the first half and in the second half when Bod was hooked (the poor bloke had less energy than Dave has ability) we went some weird sort of 4-4-2 diamond with the wide men very wide, Price deep and Dave wherever he wanted but mainly running away from central midfield into a beast of a centre half.

As a pair Price was on his own and just ended up passing the ball with a high tempo sideways to Silvio or Iorfa but wasn't great getting the ball forwards but when you are aiming for players doing their mannequin challenge every time he was on the ball it was hard for him. He's not mobile enough to be a quality defensive midfielder as he can't really tackle and isn't strong enough but he's not too dissimilar to Jonny Hogg for Huddersfield.

Two big differences; (1) Huddersfield pressed in packs like Klopp's Liverpool and they were brilliantly organised at it and when you have 3 players chasing 1 midfielder or wide players our midfielder (Price) was the only outlet and we're fucked if he was on the ball.

(2) Dave Edwards was mainly anonymous. Missed a sitter when striking the post, lost the ball for their equaliser before not tracking the 6ft2" afro'd Izzy Brown (tough man to spot as you can tell) who then stroked the ball past the chocolate wristed 'keeper.

Marshall was neat and tidy but got shunted here there and everywhere to little effect, but he's two footed and can do that. His most effective work was in the inside forward position trying to feed balls through to Mason/ Weimann.

I like Morgan Gibbs-White and he had a tough lesson in the physicality of the Championship compared to the U23's where he was buffeted off the the ball a lot but showed flair, precision and a willing to run at players only Costa shows. He's a super talent and was better wide where he could rinse the Huddersfield left back on a couple of occasions. Shame he didn't find an end product but that will come, he's very exciting to watch.

Which leads me to the mess up front; Bod shouldn't have started, he had nothing at all to give, the equivalent of hunting down a petrol station when you are below the red line on your fuel gauge. Weimann was all shouty and pointy when up front but essentially offered the square root of FA running into said man mountain and the other centre back who probably asked him to hold his cigar whilst clearing the ball to an unmarked Huddersfield midfielder. Mason dropped in behind Weimann in the second half, had one shot after a smart first touch and then preceeded to hide from everything else on the pitch.

The tactics in the second half were laughable, 4 up front, 1 up front, a diamond midfield and inverted full backs were all present at some point and to be honest they all looked like nobody knew what on earth was going on.

But for a dominant Rae type midfielder and an actual striker who could give a centre half a headache we aren't that far away, I felt sorry for Marshall, Gibbs-White, Silvio and Iorfa having to play with the rest. I can see what Lambert is trying to do (in the first half at least) but his persistence with certain players will be his undoing.

We badly lack a captain, organiser and motivator and somebody should tell Batth and Edwards that pointing arms is neither.

Ratings: Burgoyne 5; Iorfa 5, Batth 5, Stears 4, Silvio 6; Price 5, Edwards 1; Marshall 5, MGW 5, Weimann 4; Bod 3. Subs: Mason 3, Graham 6, Dicko N/A.
 
Alan is a $#@! troll and has been doing this act for many a year. Wolves will win, lose or draw, and Alan will shrug his shoulders and $#@! off to Disney Land without any care in the world.
Amazing I didn't fuck off when we went down to League One then.

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People like you who let's face it haven't lived and breathed Wolves or the city, can easily escape all the holabaloo without even a care in the world. Then have the cheek to crack out your little fucking comments like you do. That's why your a troll and your comments are worth fuck all.

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