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What have the Tories ever done for us?

Paddingtonwolf said:
That was more on General Galtieri being a fool and us having rather more resource than Argentina. Never enter a war for electoral benefit unless you know you can win it, and win it quick. That was just what Thatcher needed.

Current incumbent is hoping for similar, but he is picking his fight with a nuclear superpower.
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I still have a (conspiracy) theory that war was engineered because she was so unpopular. She took away the only warship in the area just before Argentina invaded.
 
There's definitely that conspiracy in there as is the alleged conversation with Haig around it not being an area of British interest any longer. Much more likely it was Galtieri trying to be popular in a country that was economically on it's knees though. Also they could have won that war by targeting the correct ships, they went for the ones with troops on, if they'd taken out the ones with supplies instead we probably wouldn’t have landed
 
We had Vulcan bombers on St Helena. With that we could have bombed Buenos Aires. But the US would have been pissed off and Thatcher was very worried about losing the special relationship with Reagan.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
We had Vulcan bombers on St Helena. With that we could have bombed Buenos Aires. But the US would have been pissed off and Thatcher was very worried about losing the special relationship with Reagan.
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Didn't Vulcans famously fly non-stop from the UK to bomb the runway at Port Stanley?
 
MARKakaJIM said:
Didn't Vulcans famously fly non-stop from the UK to bomb the runway at Port Stanley?
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Operation Black Buck. Vulcans flew 6000m from RAF Ascension. A 16 hours round trip requiring mid-air refeulling. The longest ranged bombing missions in history at the time.
 
leedswolf said:
Operation Black Buck. Vulcans flew 6000m from RAF Ascension. A 16 hours round trip requiring mid-air refeulling. The longest ranged bombing missions in history at the time.
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Every days a school day! Was always under the impression they flew from UK.
 
MARKakaJIM said:
Every days a school day! Was always under the impression they flew from UK.
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The bombers were from RAF Waddington comprised aircraft ftrom nos 44, 50 and 101 squadrons deployed from Lincolnshire to RAF Ascension.
 
Vulcan 607 from black Buck is the gate guard at RAF Waddington, and the pilot Martin Chivers flew the air displays in the last airworthy Vulcan.
The book Vulcan 607 is a cracking read, the mission teeters on the edge of failure all the way through
 
Still laugh at the Youtube videos of them setting car alarms off at air shows, unbelievable sound
 
The Tories are chameleons when it comes to General Elections and will try to reflect the current trends and then in power will do something that makes people feel they are being bettered (right to buy a prime example).

Cameron offered a referendum on the EU because UKIP had gained traction - electorally it was a no brained but as a policy it is what it is.

2015 was definitely a Brexit election before we knew what Brexit was. I was heavily involved in a local campaign and on the day there was a real belief that we could win, the margins were tight. We lost heavily. Cameron had played a blinder and the rest is history...much like Cameron.

Blair understood the electoral strategy of the Tories and executed 1997 with a wonderful strategy of a/ not being the Conservative Party and b/ saying things people wanted to hear. In the entire history of the Labour Party, there have been few examples of this approach. Kinnock tried.and failed but most Labour leaders have been identifiable as Labour. Blair was something different. Starmer is trying to recreate it but has nowhere near the charm, charisma or political nouse of Blair

Contrary to what some on here think...I am no fan of Corbyn but Labour post 2015 are the only party since Thatcher's Tories to offer a real alternative to the status quo. Brexit is the status quo but shitter. 2010 austerity was the status quo but shitter. Johnson and his current Tories.are just shit.
 
The Saturday Boy said:
The Tories are chameleons when it comes to General Elections and will try to reflect the current trends and then in power will do something that makes people feel they are being bettered (right to buy a prime example).

Cameron offered a referendum on the EU because UKIP had gained traction - electorally it was a no brained but as a policy it is what it is.

2015 was definitely a Brexit election before we knew what Brexit was. I was heavily involved in a local campaign and on the day there was a real belief that we could win, the margins were tight. We lost heavily. Cameron had played a blinder and the rest is history...much like Cameron.

Blair understood the electoral strategy of the Tories and executed 1997 with a wonderful strategy of a/ not being the Conservative Party and b/ saying things people wanted to hear. In the entire history of the Labour Party, there have been few examples of this approach. Kinnock tried.and failed but most Labour leaders have been identifiable as Labour. Blair was something different. Starmer is trying to recreate it but has nowhere near the charm, charisma or political nouse of Blair

Contrary to what some on here think...I am no fan of Corbyn but Labour post 2015 are the only party since Thatcher's Tories to offer a real alternative to the status quo. Brexit is the status quo but shitter. 2010 austerity was the status quo but shitter. Johnson and his current Tories.are just shit.
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Agree with most of this, although for me Cameron was a bland politician and an absolute coward. The referendum was because he was afraid of the right of his party and didn't think enough of the population were mad enough to vote for Brexit, then he ran away. I might hate him as much as Thatcher.
 
The two bald bellends in the first photo are right said Fred.
 
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