West Ham 3-0 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[MARKakaJIM]

Not a hope.

If you're a centre forward you'd absolutely love to play against him. Easiest day you'll have all year. He made one good saving tackle after being miles out of position to start with and that's it.

He was only as out of position as Dawson on that occasional, one got back to put in a good recovery challenge whilst the other was walking through treacle. At least half the team did far worse than Kilman today.

 

[Tony Towner]

Still think it would have been a different with 5 at the back and with RAN on from the start.

Well we are 1-0 down as that first goal has nothing at all to do with either of those things

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He was only as out of position as Dawson on that occasional, one got back to put in a good recovery challenge whilst the other was walking through treacle. At least half the team did far worse than Kilman today.

Bentley, Semedo, Toti, J Gomes and Hwang for sure.

But it's not about today in isolation. It's about him constantly needing his hand held (which causes knock-on effects, against weak teams we have a superfluous CH against no-one and no proper RWB) and being a terrible captain, with a very limited upside as even in his preferred role he isn't *that* good.

 

[Tredman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736427493400154466

Really?

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Still think it would have been a different with 5 at the back and with RAN on from the start.

Would have made literally zero difference to the first goal.

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736427493400154466

Really?

The goals aren't context you can remove when you look at the overall game. Our purple patch at 0-2 coincided with West Ham sitting off, they don't do that if the score is different. I hope GON knows that and it's just manager bollocks to help with player confidence

 

[AndyWolves]

The third goal was so naive. A simple 1-2 takes out our entire defence. Not excusing Bentley in anyway.

We seem clueless how to defend counter attacks

Edit. Goes back to the point about defending 1 v 1

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Bentley, Semedo, Toti, J Gomes and Hwang for sure.

But it's not about today in isolation. It's about him constantly needing his hand held (which causes knock-on effects, against weak teams we have a superfluous CH against no-one and no proper RWB) and being a terrible captain, with a very limited upside as even in his preferred role he isn't *that* good.

I'd throw Cunha, Sarabia and Bellegarde into that group too personally.

I'm not exactly looking to start a Kilman fan club but he wasn't really drawing my attention today as a key part of the failure.

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736431731815928161

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Fair comments from GON.

 

[Johnny75]

Fair comments from GON.

Apart from conceding 3 goals it was even?

 

[sycophantia]

Grim. Not sure anyone played anything like good enough. Gomes and Lemina probably our best players but it's a low bar.
Hwang poor, Sarabia poor but at least tried to create things. Not Cunha's best performance but the best of our front 3.
Defence were all awful. Full backs kept going missing, Dawson too deep quite a lot as he's scared of getting caught. Kilman the least worst.
Bentley, I have no words.
Our passing was continually short and kept allowing West Ham to break.
Subs were too late and terrible. Not sure why it took so long to get RAN on, he's pretty much our only option on the bench to create anything.
Just before and just after the offside goal was our best patch but it just felt like a matter of time till they caught us on the break.
It feels like GON and Hwangs purple patch is over.
We really need a win in the next 3 games but I've confidence. Shithousing a result over Brentford seems our best hope.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Apart from conceding 3 goals it was even?

Three disastrous goals that we conceded from nothing. We beat ourselves today, gave West Ham the game... We can discuss the performance but it’s all irrelevant if we do so poorly in big moments like that in the Premier League, you stand no chance.’

 

[sycophantia]

Oh and not sure how Coufal stayed on the pitch so long. It looked like they were targeting Bellegarde.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Oh and not sure how Coufal stayed on the pitch so long. It looked like they were targeting Bellegarde.

It was like they thought he was Traore, 3 really poor challenges on him, but by far the worst was the first one. Even Moyes looked shocked with that one.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

https://x.com/paddypower/status/1736401394188304819?s=20

 

[Kenny]

Was 2 shockers from Coufal today. Potentially red for both but gets 1 yellow.

On the game, I've got nothing positive to say so won't bother.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

GON has already peaked since his Bournemouth masterclass. That's as good as it'll get here for him.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

There's definitely a shout there, I thought that at the time. Not enough in it though ultimately as Cunha had already lost the ball.

That don't matter, it's not in the rules

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

Apart from conceding 3 goals it was even?

What he said was we gave the 3 goals, which we did, he was not wrong.

Goal 1 our Corner
Goal 2 we had the ball gave it away
Did not see the second half