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thehistorymakers said:
Yes and do the same with Hillary Clinton for her emails.
Seriously, the people knew about these things before the election. What is happening lately, people are finding it hard to take defeat and are trying to change the democratic will of the electorate.
I think this is very unhealthy for a democracy.
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Nonsense. People are just being consistent. Against Trump and all he stands for before, against him and all he stands for now. No-one's trying to change anything except perhaps by legal mechanisms, which is precisely what those mechanisms are there for. I know you want all us losers to just suck it up and shut up, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Sorry.
 
thehistorymakers said:
No, I think she should stick to acting. Sick of hearing the rich actors and actresses, telling us they know better than the electorate.
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Two things.

Firstly Trump is a billionaire. All of the cabinet are millionaires. Farage is a privately educated stockbroker millionaire.

Secondly, the electorate voted for Clinton. By several million.

They have been very fortunate in life, give to the poor great. Is her opinion worth any more than yours or mine?
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Trump built his entire empire on inherited wealth. Farage's life was built on the expensive education paid for by his parents.
 
Visage said:
Well, yes. Do you understand what a 'free trade zone' means?
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Yes I do. It benefits multinationals in your block over the people who live in it.
As far as I can see in both the referendum and the USA election, you have been on the side of the multinationals over the workers who made those companies what they are.
Do you know what socialism is?
 
So Long Architect said:
Nonsense. People are just being consistent. Against Trump and all he stands for before, against him and all he stands for now. No-one's trying to change anything except perhaps by legal mechanisms, which is precisely what those mechanisms are there for. I know you want all us losers to just suck it up and shut up, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Sorry.
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No I don't want you to shut up, I respect and agree with quite a lot you post. When was the last time you saw a famous actor collecting his Grammy and just talking politics? who was right wing.
 
thehistorymakers said:
Yes I do. It benefits multinationals in your block over the people who live in it.
As far as I can see in both the referendum and the USA election, you have been on the side of the multinationals over the workers who made those companies what they are.
Do you know what socialism is?
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The whole point of multinationals is that they can locate wherever is cheapest to do their work. If Britain because a less lucrative place to work because it no longer has access to the single market, is it possible, perhaps, that those multinationals will relocate to within the EU?

And how will those 'workers who made the companies what they are' cope then?
 
thehistorymakers said:
No I don't want you to shut up, I respect and agree with quite a lot you post. When was the last time you saw a famous actor collecting his Grammy and just talking politics? who was right wing.
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Again, so what? There isn't a ban on right wing people sharing their views. You chose to click on the link that was posted. If you're so sick of hearing rich liberal actresses giving opinions, why did you click?
 
Visage said:
Two things.

Firstly Trump is a billionaire. All of the cabinet are millionaires. Farage is a privately educated stockbroker millionaire.

Secondly, the electorate voted for Clinton. By several million.



Trump built his entire empire on inherited wealth. Farage's life was built on the expensive education paid for by his parents.
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I read earlier that Trump would now be considerably richer if he'd just left all his inherited wealth in a badly performing investment vehicle rather than try to be a businessman with it.
 
Trump was only able to run for president because he is independently wealthy (not entirely of his own making) and has celebrity status. He also doesn't command the support of the majority of Americans as has been shown by the votes cast.

What then, makes his opinion any more valid than Meryl Streep?

All people have some obligation to help shape and form opinion. If you are fortunate enough to have an audience that obligation doesn't go away.

Unlike most of us, Meryl Streep when she speaks out also has a very large audience capable of disagreeing with what she says. Seems to me that her ability to express and opinion comes with the opportunity to stimulate debate and discussions about the merits (or otherwise) about what she has to say which is surely more powerful than trying to shut her down because you don't like what she says.
 
Trump has dismissed the 3 time Acadamy winning actress as 'overated'. Great counter argument.
 
thehistorymakers said:
Yes I do. It benefits multinationals in your block over the people who live in it.
As far as I can see in both the referendum and the USA election, you have been on the side of the multinationals over the workers who made those companies what they are.
Do you know what socialism is?
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This actually made me laugh because it's aimed at a man who was born with a sickle in one hand and a hammer in the other.
 
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