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[Walshes Wolves]

I like the idea of a consortium of other countries having a fair mineral deal with Ukraine in return for military support.

EU offers its own ‘win-win’ minerals deal to Ukraine

“The added value Europe offers is that we will never demand a deal that’s not mutually beneficial,” top official Stéphane Séjourné says.

www.politico.eu

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

Trump administration retreats in fight against Russian cyber threats

Recent incidents indicate US is no longer characterizing Russia as a cybersecurity threat, marking a radical departure: ‘Putin is on the inside now’

www.theguardian.com

Hegseth orders halt on all Russia-related cybersecurity operational planning

U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth issued an order last week directing U.S. Cyber Command to cease all planning against Russia, including offensive cyber operations, The Record reported on Feb. 28.

english.nv.ua

Fuck me, the KGB/FSB has the lot of them

 

[Tredman]

BBC2 showing the Darkest Hour right now is very on point.

 

[Del Woppio]

I like the idea of a consortium of other countries having a fair mineral deal with Ukraine in return for military support.

Ideally you wouldn't need claw back mechanisms like this, and you could just trust countries to do the right thing when it came to defending allies from illegal invasions and then let them use their mineral wealth to rebuild, but yeah I guess as new world solutions go, it works and I'm not against it

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Ideally you wouldn't need claw back mechanisms like this, and you could just trust countries to do the right thing when it came to defending allies from illegal invasions and then let them use their mineral wealth to rebuild, but yeah I guess as new world solutions go, it works and I'm not against it

Given that in principle Ukraine aren’t against the idea it makes sense. Far more likely to get support from some countries if they think there’s some payback down the line. As I said above it needs to be fair to all parties, not a Trump-style grab as much as you can get. An added bonus it would be a collective fuck you to Trump.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Given that in principle Ukraine aren’t against the idea it makes sense. Far more likely to get support from some countries if they think there’s some payback down the line. As I said above it needs to be fair to all parties, not a Trump-style grab as much as you can get. An added bonus it would be a collective fuck you to Trump.

The full text of the Ukraine-US Minerals Agreement

www-eurointegration-com-ua.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Keef]

 

[Keef]

Carrying on the it’s going well theme, Vice President Vance went on holiday the locals found out, protested his arrival, he’s had to go to an undisclosed location for his safety

 

[Alan]

Carrying on the it’s going well theme, Vice President Vance went on holiday the locals found out, protested his arrival, he’s had to go to an undisclosed location for his safety

And, just so it's clear, the vacation is in Vermont.

"Go ski in Russia" the favored chant.

 

[leedswolf]

So JD Vance lied? Surely there's a mistake...

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/politics/volodymyr-zelensky-thankful-us-fact-check/index.html

 

[leedswolf]

Crikes!!!!

 

[Del Woppio]

Maybe cynical, but I think they're just setting up a narratives that he can be criticised for either way rather than being an actual show support

 

[Templeton Peck]

They can use it to make Starmer look a cunt.

 

[AndyWolves]

It all rather takes the wind out of Farage, Truss and all those other loonies if the rags are anti trump.

 

[AndyWolves]

I've also read about the nuclear disarmament thing in the 90s whereby Ukraine gave up it's nukes for assurances by major players (US a big part of that) that they'd have security.

Spin forward 30 odd years and here we are. You can see how anti US feeling in Ukraine could start to increase, and then you get into unintended consequences around things like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend '. Who knows where this could end up and what future terrorist attacks are being set in motion today.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

I've also read about the nuclear disarmament thing in the 90s whereby Ukraine gave up it's nukes for assurances by major players (US a big part of that) that they'd have security.

Spin forward 30 odd years and here we are. You can see how anti US feeling in Ukraine could start to increase, and then you get into unintended consequences around things like 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend '. Who knows where this could end up and what future terrorist attacks are being set in motion today.

I am sure the Ukranians will have a lot of thinking to do, about who are their real friends.

Why Merkel chose Russia over US on Nord Stream 2

In the world of German energy politics, history really does repeat itself.

www.politico.eu

 

[leedswolf]

I am sure the Ukranians will have a lot of thinking to do, about who are their real friends.

Why Merkel chose Russia over US on Nord Stream 2

In the world of German energy politics, history really does repeat itself.

www.politico.eu

Nord Stream 2 never delivered any gas, while Russia suspended gas deliveries through Nord Stream 1 from August 31, 2021, quoting "maintenance needs". This situation became permanent after the destruction of three of the pipelines in September 2022 and sanctions linked to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Nord Stream 2 never delivered any gas, while Russia suspended gas deliveries through Nord Stream 1 from August 31, 2021, quoting "maintenance needs". This situation became permanent after the destruction of three of the pipelines in September 2022 and sanctions linked to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Which was all after the invasion of Crimea and depending on Russian gas undoubtedy helped the Russian's finance the invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

 

[leedswolf]

Which was all after the invasion of Crimea and depending on Russian gas undoubtedy helped the Russian's finance the invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

Nord Stream 2 never supplied gas. The revenue was from the original pipeline.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

Nord Stream 2 never supplied gas. The revenue was from the original pipeline.

Yes, but after the invasion of Crimea, Germany should never have done a deal with Russia to build it and of course Russia was already supplying gas to Germany, through the Freindship pipeline that later on went to be called Nord Stream 1.

It is made a lot worst in my opinion, because Merkel allowed a deal to go through with a German citizen that was in the East German Stassi, called Mattias Warnig. He was a Russian spy and giving important information to Russia about German Bank systems. He later went to live in Russia and became the top person at Gazprom. By getting rid of all German nuclear reactors and then becoming dependant on Russian gas, which was run by a German who had spied against Germany for Russia, is insane in my opinion.

Matthias Warnig - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org