Trump

[leedswolf]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

 

[Alan]

Of all the things to challenge Trump on this is surely towards the bottom of a long list?

What exactly is the point of this question?

 

[Wellen Wolf]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

Good read. Thx. What a naive and idiotic character.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

What exactly is the point of this question?

Pretty simple, of all the things Trump has done since his inauguration stopping people who have been through puberty as a male from competing in women’s sport is one of the few things most people from both sides of the political spectrum agree on.

 

[Alan]

Is it now. If you say so.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Is it now. If you say so.

Can only speak as I find. I don’t know one person who thinks people who’ve been through puberty as a male should be allowed to compete with women in sport. I actually think the insistence of such people that they should be treated exactly the same as women who are female at birth does the trans movement a lot of damage and gives bigots something to hang their anti-trans views on.

 

[Tony Towner]

I hate the trans women in sport argument as it makes me agree with people I don't want to and is weaponised by those same people to make unpleasant wider anti trans comments

 

[Alan]

It’s a very difficult one for me. On the one hand, it probably wouldn’t be fair to have them forced to continue in a male sport. Equally, it does increase the probability of a physical advantage (obviously though it would be ridiculous to assert that anyone who went through “male puberty”, for lack of a better term, is automatically physically superior). And even further, it would probably be exceedingly difficult to create a third (and possibly more) sport division strictly for those who fall outside the, er, “traditional” gender binary.

Not trans nor a woman, though, so ultimately not equipped to make that call. Trump certainly has no business doing so, either.

 

[Del Woppio]

I think I've mentioned before that I don't like how conflicted (potentially it's even as far as hypocritical)I am on the subject. I believe (and to be fair, I try hard to make sure that remains the case) trans women are women, and any support we can offer to help, we should. But it just doesn't wash with competitive sport, unfortunately. You could have the most progressive society imaginable but the damage to sporting integrity is a circle that I just can't get squared no matter how I shake it up.

Obviously the fact that it's talked about as if you've got 25 year old blokes just putting a dress on and kicking arse left right and centre, which is complete bullshit and really damaging.

 

[Tony Towner]

Instead of just laughing James why not try and have a coherent discussion? One that you can't just copy and paste from whichever bigot you happen to be following that day.

 

[Del Woppio]

I can't imagine reading anything James wrote and being grateful for it tbf, lad has the brain power of my morning poo.

 

[Lupo]

Who is James?

 

[YoungWolf]

I can't imagine reading anything James wrote and being grateful for it tbf, lad has the brain power of my morning poo.

How can you have seen him play PTG and think this?

Oh wait yeah.

 

[lemonjelly]

I can't imagine reading anything James wrote and being grateful for it tbf, lad has the brain power of my morning poo.

Think you're underselling the brain power of that early morning motion tbf.

 

[Alan]

Man I feel like I’m missing some context here

 

[Keef]

I know he posted at least one racist picture on here, and couldn’t understand the fallout he got from it, other than that I dunno

 

[Alan]

I know he posted at least one racist picture on here, and couldn’t understand the fallout he got from it, other than that I dunno

I first read this like you couldn't understand the fallout.

 

[prawnking]

Forum on the hunt for a new folk devil post-Glasgow

 

[Tony Towner]

Nah he used to post on here a lot back in the day which is why I know he's the exact type of simpleton Trump, Farage and their ilk prey on. Convinced that anything shit in their lives is the fault of those different to them.

 

[Del Woppio]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1893386883444437415